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Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby Meido on Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:28 pm

As some folks know, since 2009 our group has been constructing a new Rinzai monastery in Wisconsin, about 50 miles NW of Madison. We have 17 acres of forested land there.

A great deal of development of the grounds has taken place, and now we're just about 95% done with the first structure: the zendo. It's quite large, 70' x 30'. All that remains to do is some interior trim work (including the altar) and exterior decking.

Some recent photos show the current state of progress, with a nearly completed interior: http://www.korinji.org/#!gallery/c1b08.

In spring we finish the last bits, and then begin fundraising for phase 2: the residence.

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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby fukasetsu on Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:15 am

Looks like a dream!

Best wishes and prayers towards completion of the project.
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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby littletsu on Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:15 am

Thanks!

How many people are planning on full-time practice?

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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby Gregory Wonderwheel on Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:31 am

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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby partofit22 on Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:45 am

I love the ceiling- A little bit like the Unity Temple ceiling- Beautiful-
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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby Sparkle on Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:37 am

It's lovely Meido...you all must be very pleased. Room for many cushions :) - the surroundings are breathtaking :rbow:
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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby Zendudest on Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:38 pm

Thanks for the photos. I was a bit surprised to see carpet on the Zendo floor instead of hardwood.
I'm sure y'all thought about this a bit--what was the back-and-forth regarding carpet vs traditional hardwood?

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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby Meido on Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:01 pm

Thanks, everyone, for the kind words and encouragement!

Littletsu, we plan to build the residence such that 6-10 people could live full time as unsui. For events like sesshin, of course folks can just sleep in the zendo...in that case we could easily have 50 or so trainees for shorter periods, though in the past 15-30 has been more the usual sesshin range in our community.

Bryan, I actually had expected to do hardwood as well. But there were two considerations:

1. The building is on a quite steep hillside, floating up on a substructure: the SW corner is on a 14 inch piling, while the NE is more like 14 feet...that will give you a sense of the slope. Because of this the whole structure moves somewhat with the seasons and temperature changes, more so I'm told than if it had been built on slab dug into the hillside. And so our experts felt that a hardwood floor would likely pop and buckle a bit, and that it would be best to wait and watch for a few years while everything settles.

2. Since this is the training hall (not a residence) it will rarely be heated much...and we're not building tan (sitting platforms) in this zendo: the zabuton will be on the floor (this is to allow us to use the space flexibly for a lot of different things). So the thought was that carpet would be a more forgiving and comfortable surface during the winters.

Actually, I may decide to put tatami down in the main training space. If so, the only visible carpet would be around the edges. And some years down the road, perhaps we'll end up with wood after all.

As you might imagine, it's been an interesting and organic development of planning as the building has taken shape...the evolving reality of it has often broken my original ideas completely.

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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby fukasetsu on Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:40 am

Meido wrote:...the evolving reality of it has often broken my original ideas completely.


You mean the way things manifest doesn't always correspond with how you envisioned/imagined it?

So the same as 100% of everything, anyone in the so called 3 times has ever imagined anything to be(come-was)? Do I need to raise a "duh" :PP:
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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby Meido on Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:31 am

What a pity!

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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby Michaeljc on Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:29 am

A downside of a carpeted floor relates to acoustics. It muffles all sound. Bells and other percussions - plus chanting – will not project to their full potential.

Just being picky here. Sound is such a significant force in the Zendo. For me, anyway.

Congratulations on your progress Meido

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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby fukasetsu on Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:09 am

Meido wrote:What a pity!

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Yes, such grace!
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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby unsui on Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:24 am

I love the way it all looks and seems to feel, Meido. Having followed the process over time in pictures, I am filled with warmth and gratitude. The engaged sangha and their teacher, the townspeople, who have donated stuff... It is such a beautiful and energized/energizing space in an amazing location.

The little green envy bug gnaws at me, ha-ha-ha; Guo Gu can come and lecture me about vexations. :dance: I have had to drop ALL my expectations, since our monastery is being built IN a bricked up cowshed. The whole thing still looks like a cowshed, not at all Japanese-y or Zen-ny. Mostly we have had to choose really inexpensive solutions for everything, upcycling stuff people were getting rid of, mismatched stuff on sale because that is what the shop had left, flea markets... Our zendo is tiny in comparison, but there aren't that many Danes who prioritize sesshin or kessei/ango, so it works wonderfully. In the wintery months, people sleep in the zendo - and like yours, it isn't really heated. Which is, sad to say, one of the actual reasons people drop sesshin, since we stay at 60F +/- in the cold seasons. We were stricter when we started, but compromised after a polling of the sangha. Kinhin outside the zendo is really funny, however; people put on their winter parkas, mittens, scarves and hats (I don't imagine our teacher has ever witnessed this).
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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby Meido on Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:08 pm

Thank you, Michael. Luckily sound seems not to be a problem in this case, helped perhaps by the vaulted ceiling space. The carpet is very low pile...I suspect it absorbs no more than tatami (a common flooring in some spaces used for ceremony) does.

So if our manner of chanting and using the instruments can't resonate this space, I'll blame the humans!

Thanks also, Mugen. I'm very touched by your description. We certainly know the experience of scratching and scraping to find resources: about 75% of our zendo was built by volunteers, using old donated tools and with chains of bodies to move loads normally hauled by truck. So the building process has been much slower than if done by professionals...but also much cheaper. One thing to treasure in both our cases, I suspect: the knowledge and feeling that come with having literally placed one's own hands over every square inch of a structure, inside and out. Several of us here have come to feel like this land and building are parts of our bodies.

As for winter kinhin, I hear you: the average January temp at our place is about -11 C, commonly with a meter or more of snow. At times, snowshoes required!

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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby Michaeljc on Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:03 pm

As for winter kinhin, I hear you: the average January temp at our place is about -11 C, commonly with a meter or more of snow. At times, snowshoes required


Sounds very like the old Japanese mountain monasteries :)
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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby Meido on Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:11 pm

Yes...in Hokkaido :lol2:

My teacher trained at one of the Gozan monastery sodo in Kyoto. He reports that in winters they would wear extra layers and leave all the windows open...however the temps usually didn't get much below freezing. So it was miserable enough at times, but not unbearable.

Our wood burner is nice. It's rated for 2400 sq. ft, and the interior space is closer to 1800. We've found that we have to be careful not to fire the stove up too high or things gets uncomfortably warm. We're grateful that we could get a very efficient stove like this as well as windows and insulation with very high energy ratings.

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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby unsui on Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:04 pm

Meido wrote:Thanks also, Mugen. I'm very touched by your description. We certainly know the experience of scratching and scraping to find resources: about 75% of our zendo was built by volunteers, using old donated tools and with chains of bodies to move loads normally hauled by truck. So the building process has been much slower than if done by professionals...but also much cheaper.

This is probably one of the most important and moving things, isn't it? The deep heartfelt engagement in our common practice where our unselfish openness is what makes the whole universe resonate?

This is a challenge in our culture, where people aren't accustomed to taking full responsibility, so things happen slowly here.
Meido wrote:One thing to treasure in both our cases, I suspect: the knowledge and feeling that come with having literally placed one's own hands over every square inch of a structure, inside and out. Several of us here have come to feel like this land and building are parts of our bodies.

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Meido wrote:As for winter kinhin, I hear you: the average January temp at our place is about -11 C, commonly with a meter or more of snow. At times, snowshoes required!

~ Meido

That's right: you guys have the continental climate going for you! We don't hit much under -10 C - and this year, it's just one long autumn. So far. No snowshoing or skiing in the MUD! SO MUCH MUD! :lol2:
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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby Michaeljc on Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:53 am

The Shobogenzo and Eihei Kōroku give us an insight into the economics and environments surrounding mountain monasteries during Dogen’s era. They parallel your situation, Meido, in both respects. Snow constantly figures in Dogen’s discourses and koans – as do features of all seasons. Dogen obviously cherishes these remote elevated settings.

He is highly reliant on patrons to build and maintain the monasteries. He relays stories of other abbots who struggle to maintain their centres, boxing on with leaking roofs and the like.

You are in good company :)
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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby Meido on Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:00 am

There's actually a Dogen quote from Shobogenzo Zuimonki that's been important to me during this process:

At present I am appealing for donations and working as much as possible to construct a sodo. Still, I do not think that this necessarily contributes to the flourishing of the buddha-dharma. Only because there are few people who are studying the Way right now and because I am spending my days leisurely, do I think it better to engage in these activities than be idle. I hope this will enable deluded people to form a connection with the buddha-dharma. Moreover, I am working on this project for the sake of founding a dojo for zazen practice for people studying the Way in this age. I will have no regrets even though what I have wished for and begun might not be realized. I do not mind if but one single pillar is erected as long as people in later generations think that someone had the aspiration to carry out such a project.


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Re: Korinji Zendo: Photos

Postby unsui on Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:54 am

Meido wrote:There's actually a Dogen quote from Shobogenzo Zuimonki that's been important to me during this process:

At present I am appealing for donations and working as much as possible to construct a sodo. Still, I do not think that this necessarily contributes to the flourishing of the buddha-dharma. Only because there are few people who are studying the Way right now and because I am spending my days leisurely, do I think it better to engage in these activities than be idle. I hope this will enable deluded people to form a connection with the buddha-dharma. Moreover, I am working on this project for the sake of founding a dojo for zazen practice for people studying the Way in this age. I will have no regrets even though what I have wished for and begun might not be realized. I do not mind if but one single pillar is erected as long as people in later generations think that someone had the aspiration to carry out such a project.


~ Meido

Thank-you.

I am still and constantly working on dropping my ambition and expectation. This greed for teaching and for people's openness is still greed - which of course feeds delusion (and frustration+anger).

I will post this quote in our virtual board room and ask the board members to help me practice. Once again, thank you, Meido.
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