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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby Caodemarte on Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:20 am

Might want to find out Sogenji's experience with its hospice in Washington state.
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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby Linda Anderson on Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:57 am

desert_woodworker wrote:Linda,

Linda Anderson wrote:It is so needed. And, one more reason for me to come. I'm still looking around for a future resting place. :peace: Do you envision a place for the healthy and the infirm? Joe could teach yoga.

It would be hard to stop me. ;)

And for me to stop myself. :tongueincheek:

--Joe

p.s. and if not "teach" it, lead it somewhat, if there's interest, in practice together, to give the teacher (Guo Gu) a break, sometimes! :lol2:


Joe,
As far as I know, you'll have no competition... Guo Gu isn't a yoga teacher for the body kind. No one would stop you.... vast emptiness, nothing holy :)
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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby Linda Anderson on Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:50 am

Guo Gu,
This poem crossed my path today ... my appreciation is sinking into this dream of yours of community. A well lived life and death happens in community. It is especially poignant today.... I have house sat 3 weekends now to support my dear friends who lost their 47-year old son unexpectedly while they tended to his completion/memorial. I touches my own sensibility that I lost my father at 44 in 1961. When I arrived at their house, I felt palpably that their son was dead and here was their house where the hummers (humming birds) still came in droves, their flowers and vegetables were still growing and the pups (3) were just as lively.... and the butterflys still fly over the killing fields of war. oh my, feeling it and the sweetness. They texted my on the way home from a plane trip.... they found so much love. Their grief is deep, the laundry needed to be done... I did it. Nothing else for me to do.

here's the poem:
Musée des Beaux Arts” by W.H. Auden

About suffering they were never wrong,
The old Masters: how well they understood
Its human position: how it takes place
While someone else is eating or opening a window or just walking dully along;
How, when the aged are reverently, passionately waiting
For the miraculous birth, there always must be
Children who did not specially want it to happen, skating
On a pond at the edge of the wood:
They never forgot
That even the dreadful martyrdom must run its course
Anyhow in a corner, some untidy spot
Where the dogs go on with their doggy life and the torturer's horse
Scratches its innocent behind on a tree.

In Breughel's Icarus, for instance: how everything turns away
Quite leisurely from the disaster; the ploughman may
Have heard the splash, the forsaken cry,
But for him it was not an important failure; the sun shone
As it had to on the white legs disappearing into the green
Water, and the expensive delicate ship that must have seen
Something amazing, a boy falling out of the sky,
Had somewhere to get to and sailed calmly on.
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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby Guo Gu on Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:00 pm

thank you, linda, joe, everyone. thank you for the beautiful poem linda.

yes, there would be the young and the old, intermingling. my plan is to start with building a tiny house community for those who are still able to get around and such. then expand from there to those who need assisted living. but those tiny houses are also for those who wish to do short term meditation/study retreats.

as for teaching, leading yoga, actually i was thinking of those old timers (whether they are teachers or practitioners) who are up to it, they can do dharma teaching as well (let alone yoga!). this community is about offering and integrity. what we offer is wisdom and compassion. can you imagine a community full of longtime practitioners?! what better way to let them shine than have them help all beings? there's so much we can do together. our imagination is our limit.

linda, there's no toe stepping.... there's no guo gu as there's no valley. a valley is only a name, made up of all those things and living beings in it. so no "competition" to speak of whatsoever. so joe, linda, get ready to share the dharma. meido, when you retire you and yours can come here too! just to be clear, this place is for all those who wish to live the last phase of their life with integrity, wisdom, and compassion in a community of practitioners. guo gu is not the "teacher" there. in that community, he's there to serve.

when there is a vow, there is a way. when there's only talk, then nothing happens. we still have some money left over which will be for this place. i will try to get the word out (publish something on this vision) once the conditions are ripe. you all will hear about it then. joe, you may donate then. first i have to get this current center in place by broadening the base of practitioners.

be well,
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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby fukasetsu on Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:11 pm

All valleys are allready valleys without an echo
All lands are already lands without north or south
May all these plans manifest as the land of Nirvana.
:daisy:

ps anything you can think of now or in due time which I could do to help even if you think it's unlikely please share it.
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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby desert_woodworker on Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:33 pm

Thanks for the very informative and inspiring reply, Guo Gu.

I'll quote and reply to just one small item, now:

Guo Gu wrote:my plan is to start with building a tiny house community for those who are still able to get around and such. then expand from there to those who need assisted living. but those tiny houses are also for those who wish to do short term meditation/study retreats.

The mention of "tiny house" reminds me of a small book full of good ideas that I received recently. It is:

    Derek Diedricksen, Micro Shelters -- 59 Creative Cabins, Tiny Houses, Tree Houses, and Other Small Structures, (2015).
There are even "tiny houses" on wheels! So they can be re-positioned, grouped, etc., as things change.

Here's a link to an Amazon page where the book is shown and described:

http://www.amazon.com/Microshelters-Cre ... iedricksen

and here's the author's website, with plans, videos to view online, etc.:

http://relaxshacks.blogspot.com/

best!,

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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby Linda Anderson on Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:53 pm

Guo Gu,

Yes! Thanks for the update. May it manifest... :daisy:

Happy to help.

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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby Linda Anderson on Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:37 am

Don't forget to invite Genjo and Nonin.... I'm sure I've missed someone.
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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby fukasetsu on Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:45 am

Linda Anderson wrote:Guo Gu,
This poem crossed my path today ... my appreciation is sinking into this dream of yours of community. A well lived life and death happens in community. It is especially poignant today.... I have house sat 3 weekends now to support my dear friends who lost their 47-year old son unexpectedly while they tended to his completion/memorial. I touches my own sensibility that I lost my father at 44 in 1961. When I arrived at their house, I felt palpably that their son was dead and here was their house where the hummers (humming birds) still came in droves, their flowers and vegetables were still growing and the pups (3) were just as lively.... and the butterflys still fly over the killing fields of war. oh my, feeling it and the sweetness. They texted my on the way home from a plane trip.... they found so much love. Their grief is deep, the laundry needed to be done... I did it. Nothing else for me to do.


Linda, thanks for sharing this personal tale it reasonates here, the grief and the laundry. It reminded me of a poem I shared with a friend not long ago who just lost his grandma.
By Goethe.

Wanderer's nightsong II

Über allen Gipfeln 
Ist Ruh, 
In allen Wipfeln 
Spürest du 
Kaum einen Hauch; 
Die Vögelein schweigen im Walde. 
Warte nur, balde 
Ruhest du auch. 

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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby Guo Gu on Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:46 pm

Linda Anderson wrote:Don't forget to invite Genjo and Nonin.... I'm sure I've missed someone.


hi linda,
i sent an invite to nonin a month ago... i don't think he log in anymore. i tried to email nabraska zen center and he's no longer listed, which is weird. even if he was the previous abbot he should be listed as part the center's history--but he's not. i have no way to reach him...
who's genjo?
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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby desert_woodworker on Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:50 pm

Guo Gu, Master Nonin, being of a certain (retirement-) age, may have a land-line, and may be in the phone book. For example, I myself -- being of a certain (retirement-) age -- have a land-line, and am in the phone book.

Hope this helps!

(at least you know how to contact me). :heya:

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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby Linda Anderson on Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:06 pm

Guo Gu,

Genjo Marinello: http://choboji.org/

Genjo is a teacher on this forum. He has a Rinzai Temple in Seattle.
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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby fukasetsu on Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:17 am

Guo Gu wrote:hi linda,
i sent an invite to nonin a month ago... i don't think he log in anymore. i tried to email nabraska zen center and he's no longer listed, which is weird. even if he was the previous abbot he should be listed as part the center's history--but he's not. i have no way to reach him...
who's genjo?
guo gu


I saw Nonin online a few days ago, first and only arising thought was "He's still alive" (since we didn't get any public news regarding his health"

One of the funniest things Nonin ever said was;
"If I knew I was gonna get this old, I would have taken better care of myself"
:lol2:

I actually often hear him say that when I decide to eat a salad instead of 8 chocolate cookies, if you ever speak with him please ask him if you may share his current condition with me or us, openly or via PM.
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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby desert_woodworker on Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:04 am

He'd better be OK, that's all I've got to say. :)

:Namaste:

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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby Guo Gu on Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:26 pm

he didn't reply my messages, so not sure what's going on...

anyway, joe, i'll be in london for a retreat. when i return i will call you.
be well,
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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby Dan74 on Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:09 am

Getting to hear Guo Gu teach the Dharma and meeting him afterwards were a real treat (not to mention the yummy Chinese food).

As much as I've enjoyed his posts here, in person, his sense of humour, presence and warmth come across so much more. If you value spending time with a genuine Dharma friend, this is a great opportunity.

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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby fukasetsu on Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:58 am

Thank you Dan, wonderful to hear looking forward to it myself.

Was this in London august 14th at the talk?
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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby Linda Anderson on Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:38 pm

Dan74 wrote:Getting to hear Guo Gu teach the Dharma and meeting him afterwards were a real treat (not to mention the yummy Chinese food).

As much as I've enjoyed his posts here, in person, his sense of humour, presence and warmth come across so much more. If you value spending time with a genuine Dharma friend, this is a great opportunity.

_/|\_


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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby Dan74 on Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:46 pm

fukasetsu wrote:Thank you Dan, wonderful to hear looking forward to it myself.

Was this in London august 14th at the talk?


Yes. Just back from the Ol' Blighty, as they call it.
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Re: Zen Forum International meetup!

Postby Guo Gu on Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:52 am

dan,
it was a delight to meet and chat with you, too.
next time come for a retreat.
be well,
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