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Re: vortex

Postby Chrisd on Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:17 am

welcome back :heya:

enjoy vortexes :grr: :lol2:

Every human being has a paradigm in consciousness where there is a right and a wrong. It's the way human consciousness relates to the environment.

When people take their paradigm to be the one and only, they imagine the other person to have a wrong paradigm.

Because they can't see the growth potential that is inherent in the paradigm of the other person, they want to destroy the paradigm of the other and replace it with their own.

What can you do about it when you see that happening? From my perspective you can enter a social agreement with the other person that he or she should no longer enter vortexes, but on what grounds does that happen? Because a person sees the inherent destructiveness of his or her own behavior or simply because they don't want to disrespect the teacher?

A vortex is a preaching situation. Like Christian preachers don't shut up because they're so stuck in their own paradigm and they just have to get the message across as if their own identity depends on it (it does :PP: ).
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Re: vortex

Postby Guo Gu on Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:13 pm

vortex!

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Re: vortex

Postby partofit22 on Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:04 am

underwater vortex!

horizontal vortex!

longboard vortex!

corduroy vortex?
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Re: vortex

Postby desert_woodworker on Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:15 pm

Empty vortex.

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Re: vortex

Postby another_being on Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:48 pm

:huh?:
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Re: vortex

Postby fukasetsu on Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:06 pm

God is in the tv...

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Re: vortex

Postby Guo Gu on Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:22 am

how so, fuki?
be well,
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Re: vortex

Postby Linda Anderson on Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:42 am

Rest easy Mates, my friend reports that the Tsunami that reached Maui was 2.5 feet high.
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Re: vortex

Postby desert_woodworker on Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:30 pm

Thanks, Linda.

I hope Anirukta is safe, near the sea in Chile.

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Re: vortex

Postby partofit22 on Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:59 am

There were these things in waters down in the Florida Keys that lit up at night when they swirled, then as they slowed the light dimmed- The light they emitted was green -- hypnagogic green-
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Re: vortex

Postby chankin1937 on Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:58 am

Avisitorwrote: So, how does one reveal what is true or not if one has no idea of what is true or not??


Hello Avisitor,
To get an idea of what is true we turn to the record left behind by those who did know. The Zen Masters tell us the goal of Zen is bliss – profound peace-of-mind. They tell us how to get it – practice abstaining from thinking while remaining alert and passively aware in meditation. Allow your thoughts to melt away – burn out. Maintain an attitude of detachment –be neither for or against them. In time, what remains will be pure awareness. In creatures with our kind of central nervous system that is bliss – the common human goal.
I can tell you why that is true. It is not necessary to understand why, but doing so gives us confidence in the advice the Masters have left us.

Above all, use your intellect to discriminate between what is sense and what is nonsense.
Is the world we live in an illusion? No.
Does the self exist? Yes.
Is there something beyond reacquainting ourselves with Peace of mind? No.
Is thinking to be abandoned in everyday life? Certainly not.
Must you attend a sangha and consult a teacher to succeed? No. (Unless you enjoy that sort of thing.)
These are ideas introduced by misguided philosophers.

The Buddha Gautama said it all in one short sentence: “Nirvana is the extinction of dukkha.”
Once we understand that dukkha is obsessive thinking – random and habitual thought – we can benefit from his teaching.
Before anyone starts on this adventure, they should have a clear idea of what they are attempting and how they are to succeed.
Should we practice once we have the reached goal? Most certainly!

Keep your wits about you.
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Re: vortex

Postby Guo Gu on Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:07 am

vortices...
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Re: vortex

Postby Seeker242 on Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:15 pm

I think the best way to observe a vortex is to sit a week long meditation retreat. :lol2:
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