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Postby LolloRosso on Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:58 am

Hello everybody,
I am trying to find out if there is a Buddhist (or even Zen specific) chant for shaving ones head please?
My google searches to date have been disappointing. It appears google does indeed not have all the answers. I was hoping somebody in the forum (maybe with monastic experience) might have some insights.

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Re: Chant while shaving the head

Postby Meido on Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:18 am

Search for teihatsu ge or teihatsu no ge, for example:

http://global.sotozen-net.or.jp/eng/lib ... of_tonsure

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Re: Chant while shaving the head

Postby LolloRosso on Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:29 am

Thank you so much Meido - I really appreciate your help!

"In shaving off beard and hair,
we pray that all living beings
should forever be free from mental afflictions
and in the end attain nirvana.

teijo shuhatsu  剃除鬚髮
to gan shujō  當願衆生
yōri bon no 永離煩惱
kugyō jakumetsu  究竟寂滅"

What a wonderfully compassionate way to go about personal grooming!
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Re: Chant while shaving the head

Postby Meido on Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:38 am

Just don't use the other teihatsu verse, or you'll be conducting your own Soto funeral :)
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Re: Chant while shaving the head

Postby LolloRosso on Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:04 am

:)
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Re: Chant while shaving the head

Postby jundo on Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:53 am

Hi,

If you would like to see a part of the shaving ritual, 39:10 here. Of course, a bit different on one's own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhTe8Aiz1s4

There are two interesting special rules about this. One is that both the person shaving and the one being shaved should reflect on the verse rather than recite it during the actual shaving (or perhaps recite before the actual shaving). I have seen it done during the shaving though, but I think before or reflection is better. I suppose the reason is that all that jaw moving and trying to do two things at once might result in a few nicks! ;)

After the ceremony, hair (and clipped nails too) are buried in the ground at the base of a plant or in a hair reliquary where people won't step on them. Rather than just tossing the hair and clippings in the trash. Kinda like a hair funeral

Of course, your Lineage might have their own ways, so best to ask your Teacher

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Re: Chant while shaving the head

Postby jundo on Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:01 am

PS - Also, I hope you use a better and sharper razor than that fellow was using in the film! That looks deadly, and the funeral might result by accident! :PP:
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Re: Chant while shaving the head

Postby Hosei on Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:10 pm

Blimey, using straight (aka 'cut-throat') razors! - and bloody dull ones at that, as you pointed out :(

We used "normal" ones... I used my Gillette turbo triple blade :-) - mind you, that is a 1977 video I think, maybe they've upgraded there since :-)

I find it Interesting that they seem to be using towels rather than senmen-jukins, which is what we used. I guess towels were the only modernization, and safety razors were just a step too far! :-) lol! Whereas at my temple it was the other way around

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Re: Chant while shaving the head

Postby Hosei on Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:15 pm

Oh.. and as for the original post,

Another translation of the Shaving verse is

As we shave,
Together with all beings,
May we leave our desires behind.
Entering the highest awakening.

- I like this translation because I don't have a beard to shave - I was taught to say it out loud (in japanese) just at the last bit of shaving.

And a completely different verse that I've used is:

Withing the karmic realms of past, present and future
The bonds of attachment are hard to break
Leaving them behind is entering the truth
Truly this shows our gratitude.

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Re: Chant while shaving the head

Postby LolloRosso on Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:05 am

Haha, I was wondering about me chanting about beards.
Thank you all for your wonderful support on the journey.
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Re: Chant while shaving the head

Postby lobster on Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:05 am

For the beard, especially if Sangha Senior - Nun The Wiser, may I recommend this traditional beard removal from the Heart Sutra:

Gate, Gate, Paragate, Para Sam gate Bodhisvaha.

English:
Gone, Gone, Gone beyond Gone utterly beyond

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Re: Chant while shaving the head

Postby jundo on Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:40 pm

lobster wrote:For the beard, especially if Sangha Senior - Nun The Wiser, may I recommend this traditional beard removal from the Heart Sutra:

Gate, Gate, Paragate, Para Sam gate Bodhisvaha.

English:
Gone, Gone, Gone beyond Gone utterly beyond

:tee:


There is also the Dharani ...

Schick Schick Gillette Schick

(Maybe that only makes sense to Americans? :) )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8ffkDf0ol4

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