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Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby organizational on Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:32 pm

Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds of Flax

A monk asked Tozan, "What is the Buddha?"

Tozan answered, "Three pounds of flax!"

Mumon's Comment: Tozan's Zen is like a clam. When the two halves of the shell open, you can see the whole inside. However, now tell me, "What is Tozan's real insides?"

Just "Three pounds of flax!" pops up,
His words are close, and yet his heart is closer.
Anyone who explains this or that, yes and no,
is himself the man of yes and no.
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Re: Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby organizational on Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:35 pm

A n y comments?
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Re: Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby Gregory Wonderwheel on Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:48 pm

organizational wrote:A n y comments?

If you can't find a shirt made of flax, I'm sure you can get one made of hemp.

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Re: Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby organizational on Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:21 pm

Gregory Wonderwheel wrote:If you can't find a shirt made of flax, I'm sure you can get one made of hemp.


It is sth like I've learned the swimming today.

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Re: Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby Jok_Hae on Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:35 pm

organizational wrote:Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds of Flax

A monk asked Tozan, "What is the Buddha?"

Tozan answered, "Three pounds of flax!"

Mumon's Comment: Tozan's Zen is like a clam. When the two halves of the shell open, you can see the whole inside. However, now tell me, "What is Tozan's real insides?"

Just "Three pounds of flax!" pops up,
His words are close, and yet his heart is closer.
Anyone who explains this or that, yes and no,
is himself the man of yes and no.


Just now, how is it?

Don't be a (person) of yes and no, friend!
You make, you get

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Re: Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby desert_woodworker on Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:51 pm

Flak jacket.

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Re: Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby Michaeljc on Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:33 am

I have absolutely no idea what they are talking about :blush:
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Re: Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby desert_woodworker on Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:48 am

howdy, Michael,

Michaeljc wrote:I have absolutely no idea what they are talking about :blush:

Yeah ya do. 'cept, ...it's not much to do with "idea(s)".

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ps and Tozan's reply is medicine, not "information".
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Re: Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby organizational on Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:57 am

Jok_Hae wrote:
organizational wrote:Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds of Flax

A monk asked Tozan, "What is the Buddha?"

Tozan answered, "Three pounds of flax!"

Mumon's Comment: Tozan's Zen is like a clam. When the two halves of the shell open, you can see the whole inside. However, now tell me, "What is Tozan's real insides?"

Just "Three pounds of flax!" pops up,
His words are close, and yet his heart is closer.
Anyone who explains this or that, yes and no,
is himself the man of yes and no.


Just now, how is it?

Don't be a (person) of yes and no, friend!



Yes, sir!
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Re: Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby organizational on Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:25 am

Children(or sons) should listen to their fathers.
My(own):Todays! quote


I feel myself like being in an olympic swimming pool.Yet not just my english is poor but also my knowledge and experience is limited.I hope that doesn't make you unhappy.

I remember the first day that me and my sister were get in to the olympic swimming pool after practicing enough at the child pool.We were going to a swimming course and we had a swimming teacher.We were child and began at the child pool ordinarily.One day after enough training! the teacher got us near the olympic pool.He said me to jump in.And I got jump.Then he threw my sister to the pool.Then he jumped in behind us.That was the first day that we entered the big pool.After 6 months I was swimming like a fish.a sweet anectode wanted to share.
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Re: Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby organizational on Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:31 am

desert_woodworker wrote:Flak jacket.

--Joe


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Re: Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby jundo on Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:55 pm

First off, the whole premise is wrong. It was only 2.97 pounds of Flax.

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Re: Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby [james] on Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:00 pm

jundo wrote:First off, the whole premise is wrong. It was only 2.97 pounds of Flax.

Gassho, J

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Re: Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby organizational on Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:47 pm

Problems get solved by talking.

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Re: Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby Gregory Wonderwheel on Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:08 am

jundo wrote:First off, the whole premise is wrong. It was only 2.97 pounds of Flax.

Gassho, J

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LOL. Is that a conversion rate? Or are you saying someone had their thumb on the scale?

I figure the conversions as
27. 216 Liang = 3 pounds = 1.3608 kilo.
or
3 Laing = 0.3306 pound = 0.15 kilo.

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Re: Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby Guo Gu on Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:45 am

a dumb question gets a dumb answer!
yet mumon perplexes generations of practitioners.

what is buddha?
what are you?
who dares wear that three pounds of flax?

be free,
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Re: Case 18 Tozan's Three Pounds

Postby organizational on Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:15 am

Guo Gu wrote:a dumb question gets a dumb answer!
yet mumon perplexes generations of practitioners.

what is buddha?
what are you?
who dares wear that three pounds of flax?

be free,
guo gu


What is Buddha nature in another means Guo Gu?
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