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Re: I wonder if anyone can answer this

Postby Jok_Hae on Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:35 pm

Sleepy Wanderer wrote:Thank you all for answering. I practice zazen most mornings and sometimes evenings and/or afternoons as well. I love this practice and it continues to have a profound influence on my life. I also find myself bringing this meditativeness with me throughout the day, into all kinds of situations.

However I am not exactly a monk, I'm young and foolish, and fall in love and make music and go to parties and whatnot, and I'm loving this for now, even though or perhaps because I realize the voidness of it.

Maybe I will find a teacher some day, if I can find one who has nothing to teach and doesn't charge money for it. But right now all of my friends, the people I meet, the flowers I smell and even cold winds and blows to the stomach are my teachers and my sangha, and I don't know what more or what special things an 'actual' teacher could teach me. But if someone else knows, please tell me.

PS please don't take me too seriously :Namaste:


A teacher will help..but for the time being, as an old friend would say from time to time: "just practice and see what happens"

Your question reminded me of this:

Soen-sa replied, “You want this question to grow. This mind is not good. This is attachment thinking. You must cut off this thinking, and only do hard training. It is not important for the question to grow. What is important is one moment of clear mind. Clear mind is before thinking. If you experience this mind, you have already attained enlightenment. If you experience this for a short time, even for one moment, this is enlightenment. All the rest of the time you may be thinking, but you shouldn’t worry about this thinking. It is just your karma. You must not be attached to this thinking. You must not force it to stop or force clear mind to grow. It will grow by itself, as your karma gradually disappears.”


good luck and thanks for practicing!
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Re: I wonder if anyone can answer this

Postby lobster on Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:43 am

Sleepy Wanderer wrote:However I am not exactly a monk, I'm young and foolish, and fall in love and make music and go to parties and whatnot, and I'm loving this for now, even though or perhaps because I realize the voidness of it.

Maybe I will find a teacher some day, if I can find one who has nothing to teach and doesn't charge money for it. But right now all of my friends, the people I meet, the flowers I smell and even cold winds and blows to the stomach are my teachers and my sangha, and I don't know what more or what special things an 'actual' teacher could teach me. But if someone else knows, please tell me.


:heya:

Sounds about right. When we are young we follow our dreaming. Dreams teach us we are asleep.

What a teacher will provide is the dream of awakening. When we are not ready, we say 'why is the dream preferred?'

You have learned to ask the question, which means you might be prepared for the answer. Go on a retreat before your mind blows away your stomach for . . . z z z . . . sorry fell asleep with the fragrance of a flower . . . :hide:
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Re: I wonder if anyone can answer this

Postby Quiet Heart on Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:30 am

:p:

I caught myself thinking, promising to myself "Ah, yes. Tomorrow will be a fresh new day. Tomorrow I will really bring my mind to the present moment." What could possibly be keeping me from doing it right now?
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Re: I wonder if anyone can answer this

Postby desert_woodworker on Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:14 am

Sleepy Wanderer wrote: What could possibly be keeping me from doing it right now?

You know better than any Beings in this wide Universe.

Don't let Them all down, though.

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Re: I wonder if anyone can answer this

Postby Guo Gu on Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:15 am

Sleepy Wanderer wrote:I caught myself thinking, promising to myself "Ah, yes. Tomorrow will be a fresh new day. Tomorrow I will really bring my mind to the present moment." What could possibly be keeping me from doing it right now?


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Re: I wonder if anyone can answer this

Postby organizational on Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:57 pm

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