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Re: 108 Bows, Korean Style

Postby Jok_Hae on Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:22 am

Kwanseum wrote:
Nonin wrote:Haju Sunim told me that "sunim" means "bald-headed idiot," but she was either being modest or putting me on!
A modest monk - now there's an idea! :blush:


I have yet to meet one that wasn't...but maybe I need to get out more! :lol2:
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Re: 108 Bows, Korean Style

Postby fukasetsu on Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:42 pm

Jok_Hae wrote: Seung Sahn is the name of a mountain in what is now North Korea (I think, hopefully someone can correct me on that one, if necessary.)


I remember a death poem by his students at the time where it was explained that Seung Sahn means high mountain, I can't find the poem on any search engine anymore.
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Re: 108 Bows, Korean Style

Postby Jok_Hae on Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:37 pm

fukasetsu wrote:
Jok_Hae wrote: Seung Sahn is the name of a mountain in what is now North Korea (I think, hopefully someone can correct me on that one, if necessary.)


I remember a death poem by his students at the time where it was explained that Seung Sahn means high mountain, I can't find the poem on any search engine anymore.


Actually, I was wrong. My teacher told me that Seung Sahn was the Korean name for Sung Mountain in China.

This came up when I discussed this case with him:

What is this?

In one often practices asking the hwadu “What is this?”. “What is this?” comes from an encounter between the Sixth Patriarch Huineng and a young monk who became one of his foremost disciples, Huaijang.

Huaijang entered the room and bowed to Huineng. Huineng asked: “Where do you come from?”. “I came from Mount Sung”, replied Huaijang. “What is this and how did it get here?” demanded Huineng. Huaijang could not answer and remained speechless. He practised for many years until he understood. He went to see Huineng to tell him about his breakthrough. Huineng asked: “What is this?” Huaijang replied: “To say it is like something is not to the point. But still it can be cultivated”.


From here. Emphasis mine.

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Re: 108 Bows, Korean Style

Postby fukasetsu on Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:30 pm

Jok_Hae wrote: “What is this?” Huaijang replied: “To say it is like something is not to the point. But still it can be cultivated”.[/i]


Thanks Keith, "truth" is a welcome refreshness on this hot day :)
But eh, I still don't know if Seung Sahn literally translates as High Mountain or not.
Not that's it's uber-important or anything.
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Re: 108 Bows, Korean Style

Postby nowornever on Mon May 23, 2011 10:48 pm

500 yesterday, but only 300 today. Let's for the best tomorrow :)
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Re: 108 Bows, Korean Style

Postby nowornever on Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:30 pm

I am able to do 108 at a time. Today 3x108 :rbow: so far. The plan was to do 1000 a day (like ZM Seung Sahn every day of his life) for 100 days from Dec 1st 2011 but life gave it another direction and I do about 500 a day (17000 up to now so 83 000 left :ninja: ). I wonder whether u agree with DSSN that bowing takes away karma?

http://www.kwanumzen.org/talks/SeungSah ... N+DSSN.mp3

My checking mind appeared as the more bows I do the bigger demons appear. Fortunately the more oxygen in the blood and the more clarity, which make me continue the bowing :p:
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Re: 108 Bows, Korean Style

Postby bubuyaya on Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:41 am

Seeker242 wrote:We should all take bowing lessons from this guy!
He's been doing 3,000 a day for the past 20 years.
But he is getting old so now he only does 1,000 and sometimes only a mere 500 when it gets cold.


How we take right bowing by our thoughts?
When we touch down to that thoughts using land?

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Re: 108 Bows, Korean Style

Postby bubuyaya on Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:07 pm

bubuyaya wrote:
Seeker242 wrote:We should all take bowing lessons from this guy!
He's been doing 3,000 a day for the past 20 years.
But he is getting old so now he only does 1,000 and sometimes only a mere 500 when it gets cold.


How we take right bowing by our thoughts?
When we touch down to that thoughts using land?



What is the bowing doing?
That's the Kuji's finger.

Let's believe this finger bowing.
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Re: 108 Bows, Korean Style

Postby nowornever on Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:29 pm

Do we call this kind of bowing full prostrations or half-prostrations?

Tibetan students said to me: "These are not full prostrations."
I think their prostrations are done more fully, with the body fully horizontal on the ground.
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