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25th Hexagram; 4th line

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Re: 25th Hexagram; 4th line

Postby deci belle on Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:01 am

Oh, thank you for picking up the intent of this thread, Chris!

It is very hard to see through the views held up at every turn by the "compassionate" ones, who have not, as yet, shed the skin-bag themselves. I would like you to try being a little less quick to pimp this "do-gooder" façade based on fear and self-loathing— not to mention the fact that it is a very elementary (reformative) aspect of liturgical dogma, Chris. That’s fine if that’s where you’re at, but the alternative is to take the forward step… and (in the words of Hongzhi), accept your function. Those who are compelled to hold up the banner of the "compassionate" ones cannot take the forward step and accept their innate function open-handed (for fear of being truly independent).

Independence is by virtue of resting on nothing whatsoever. This is the same as clinging neither to temporal nor absolute. It is the conditioned view of the personality which is the source of the clinging mentality. Do you think independence is easy? Easy as zen!

Obviously, if there is no clinging mentality, who is this in reality? This no-one is your own mind right now.

What is this if not the very seat of nonpsychological independence?

Independence is not relative to self and other. It is based on reality as is.

The point of authentic teaching is arriving at one's inherent enlightening function, based on reality. Buddha said reality has no pattern.

Based on reality, there being no pattern is the working definition of independent function able to adapt spontaneously in terms of selfless unity.

To say that independence is not zen is to suggest a dubious grasp of authentic teaching, non?

The underpinnings of the words of all the prior illuminates known to those whose activation of complete reality is awake is muuuuch deeper than what adherents of the shallow "schools of literal compassion" can know.

If you are not independent now, how can you be free when death comes for you?

Death is neither good nor bad, mean or nice. To be on par with death requires no less than an independence eschewing convention.

Going beyond even zen is the standard. Upon returning (once you shed the fetters of blazing enlightenment), you may then have the impersonal perspective to see reality— and express the freedom of those who have transcended the views of the "compassionate" ones.




ed note: add word "to" in 2nd paragraph
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