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Re: gems from chan master hongzhi

Postby macdougdoug on Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:30 pm

Guo Gu wrote:“Having no-mind one attains the way of no-mind. Attaining no-mind in himself, the way as well ceases to be.” With clear awareness, one takes up the responsibility of helping [sentient beings] as if one is sitting in perfect silence. As for the wondrous activity of leisurely entering the world, it is something you must dig into and investigate in this fashion!



Where do I abide? Where do all the other sentient beings abide? Are we the same or different?

When all my actions are dictated by my fears and desires, am I alone in suffering the consequences? To be here for you, I must first be free from me.
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Re: gems from chan master hongzhi

Postby ed blanco on Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:11 pm

BIRTH IS THUS
DEATH IS THUS
VERSE OR NO VERSE
WHAT'S THE FUSS


from "Swampland Flowers"

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IT SPEAKS IN SILENCE
IN SPEECH YOU HEAR ITS SILENCE

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Re: gems from chan master hongzhi

Postby Guo Gu on Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:31 pm

Seeker242 wrote:
Guo Gu wrote:
so what do you all say about:
"Knowing without encountering things; illuminating without opposing conditions."



As in what does it mean? Ok, I'll give it a go. :) Knowing without encountering things means that you know that originally there aren't any things to encounter to begin with. Like it says in the heart sutra, all 5 skandhas are empty. Illuminating without opposing conditions means that you don't make good and bad. And because no condition is bad, there is no reason to oppose any.

The problem with all that though is that it doesn't actually help any. It doesn't help any because it presents 2 additional questions about the meaning of that explanation. For example, what does it actually mean for all 5 skandhas to be empty? Or, how do you actually stop making good and bad? Then an explanation will be given to answer those 2 additional questions, which causes 2 more additional questions about that explanation, which necessitate additional explanations, which produce more questions! ad infinitum!


seeker,
how d you stop good and bad? :heya:
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Re: gems from chan master hongzhi

Postby Guo Gu on Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:32 pm

macdougdoug wrote:
Guo Gu wrote:“Having no-mind one attains the way of no-mind. Attaining no-mind in himself, the way as well ceases to be.” With clear awareness, one takes up the responsibility of helping [sentient beings] as if one is sitting in perfect silence. As for the wondrous activity of leisurely entering the world, it is something you must dig into and investigate in this fashion!



Where do I abide? Where do all the other sentient beings abide? Are we the same or different?

When all my actions are dictated by my fears and desires, am I alone in suffering the consequences? To be here for you, I must first be free from me.


be here. how can you not?
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