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Re: Trump won

Postby Humbaba on Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:31 am

partofit22 wrote:I think a good deal of what we're presently experiencing is a direct result of helicopter politics and parenting- The mutual respect and true sense of community, both local and global, that helicoptering was predicted to produce didn't happen- If anything it created rifts- It created special interests- It created trigger warnings and present day Detroit- It created a population of people that can't handle failure, a population that resorts to name calling instead of stringing together sentences that bridge the ever increasing gaps that people imagine they have simply due to differences in perspective and beliefs-

I think that Trump and Brexit are two manifestation of an increasing polarization of society.

Economically, this polarization results in increasing inequality between rich and poor, both nationally and internationally. Politically, there is a breakdown of dialogue between the so-called "establishment" and populist forces at the political extremes on the far-right or far-left.

The digital revolution, instead of assisting communication, serves as a multiplier of political bias. Both sides have fabricated a biased narrative that is spread ceaseless via the digital networks.

Perhaps it is symbolic that we commemorate the 300th anniversary of Leibniz's death, who laid the philosophical foundations of binary thinking. Leibniz was perhaps the first Western philosopher who found inspiration in Far Eastern philosophy. In Leibniz's binary thinking, god is 1 and not god is 0.

Is the world going haywire because we get bogged down ever deeper in dualistic thinking?
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Re: Trump won

Postby desert_woodworker on Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:18 pm

P., Teresa,

partofit22 wrote: ...the ever increasing gaps that people imagine they have simply due to differences in perspective and beliefs-

Tee-hee: Not that those things aren't huge and weighty!

Our practice can show us that there is one being, or one mind (if that many). But not many people embrace our practice.

(I'm speaking personally, BTW, if you don't know, as a disciple of the Buddhadharma of our Original Teacher, Shakyamuni Buddha, and as transmitted by the Ch'an and Zen Buddhist schools, especially, in my instance).

Twentieth Century American Pragmatist philosophy taught (maybe still teaches... ) that a difference, in order to be a real difference, must make a difference. Perspectives and beliefs are big things, which make practical differences in behavior, attitude, aspiration, etc.

I understand that the U. S. American documentary filmmaker Ken Burns is behind a pet project to reintroduce and reinvigorate a curriculum of "Civics" in American public schools again. I hope that works out. Private schools could use it, too.

By the way, please, what is "helicopter politics"? (it's not gun-boat diplomacy, I know; nor shuttle-diplomacy). Tnx,

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Re: Trump won

Postby Michaeljc on Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:47 pm

As common, I feel that the powers-that-be have their noses pointed at their navels. The future in developed countries does not entail globalisation and ever increasing young population through increased birth rates or immigration. These theories are about to be turned on their head through automation. It will become just as cheap to produce a car in the US as in any other country once robots and 3D printing are fully developed.

The future lies in training nationals in this new technology. Labourers will become superfluous. Tractors will work the fields and pick the fruit with no driver.

What to do with the surplus? I don’t see any other option but a grant, that represents a living wage, to all citizens, regardless - such that all may benefit from the new technology. This may appear to be pure socialism, but is in fact pure capitalism i.e. protecting the economy and social security on which profits depend. This new model is already being discussed by economists.

So, the foundations from which Trump won power (globalisation and immigration) will soon become irrelevant. There are a lot of very smart people at the top, but not many with wisdom and vision.

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Re: Trump won

Postby desert_woodworker on Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:12 pm

hi, Michael,

Michaeljc wrote:I don’t see any other option but a grant, that represents a living wage, to all citizens, regardless - such that all may benefit from the new technology.

An interesting look ahead to a possible and probable future! Thanks.

In some countries, something like this is already being done now, particularly and notably in some countries with extremely intensive extractive industries, where profits from nationalized receipts are shared (shared somewhat; I don't know how equally). For example, I think Venezuela cuts a check to each citizen each year (month?) for profits from government-contracted crude and refined petroleum sales (does Saudi also do this?).

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Re: Trump won

Postby Michaeljc on Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:38 am

Hi Joe

Yes, Saudi provides 'jobs' to its citizens. I think the state employs about 60% of all workers. The problem is that many just blob out as they don't work at all and are not expected to. In a vibrant country I would fully expect that many would want to supplement their living benefit through work. The big saving is in bureaucracy - no more means testing.
Everyone would get the same benefit. If they spend it too early in the week, tough bickies, there is no more. There is also a case for a standard rate of tax. Again- a big saving in bureaucracy.

In almost all developed countries wages in the mid-to-lower bracket have lost ground against both the rich and cost of living. This is not intentional but rather a symptom of the way economics have evolved. They have to start looking outside the square as this the driving force behind populist politicians getting elected.

Whatever, over the next 30 years things are going to turn on their head. Blame the silicon chip :)

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Re: Trump won

Postby desert_woodworker on Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:59 pm

Michael,

Ha, I just learned from The CIA World Factbook 2016 that Saudi Arabia "is the largest country in the world without a river."

The Factbook is also online in HTML, e.g., regarding Saudi, under the 'Geography' heading,

https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... os/sa.html

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Re: Trump won

Postby partofit22 on Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:34 am

desert_woodworker wrote:P., Teresa,

partofit22 wrote: ...the ever increasing gaps that people imagine they have simply due to differences in perspective and beliefs-

Tee-hee: Not that those things aren't huge and weighty!

Our practice can show us that there is one being, or one mind (if that many). But not many people embrace our practice.

(I'm speaking personally, BTW, if you don't know, as a disciple of the Buddhadharma of our Original Teacher, Shakyamuni Buddha, and as transmitted by the Ch'an and Zen Buddhist schools, especially, in my instance).

Twentieth Century American Pragmatist philosophy taught (maybe still teaches... ) that a difference, in order to be a real difference, must make a difference. Perspectives and beliefs are big things, which make practical differences in behavior, attitude, aspiration, etc.

I understand that the U. S. American documentary filmmaker Ken Burns is behind a pet project to reintroduce and reinvigorate a curriculum of "Civics" in American public schools again. I hope that works out. Private schools could use it, too.

By the way, please, what is "helicopter politics"? (it's not gun-boat diplomacy, I know; nor shuttle-diplomacy). Tnx,

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Excessive political correctness- :)

For example, communicating with the intention to prevent or shield people from experiencing discomfort-
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Re: Trump won

Postby partofit22 on Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:25 am

Michaeljc wrote:As common, I feel that the powers-that-be have their noses pointed at their navels. The future in developed countries does not entail globalisation and ever increasing young population through increased birth rates or immigration. These theories are about to be turned on their head through automation. It will become just as cheap to produce a car in the US as in any other country once robots and 3D printing are fully developed.

The future lies in training nationals in this new technology. Labourers will become superfluous. Tractors will work the fields and pick the fruit with no driver.

What to do with the surplus? I don’t see any other option but a grant, that represents a living wage, to all citizens, regardless - such that all may benefit from the new technology. This may appear to be pure socialism, but is in fact pure capitalism i.e. protecting the economy and social security on which profits depend. This new model is already being discussed by economists.

So, the foundations from which Trump won power (globalisation and immigration) will soon become irrelevant. There are a lot of very smart people at the top, but not many with wisdom and vision.

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I predicted that Donald Trump wouldn't win, that Republicans wouldn't be in White House any time soon- :) So, I've nothing to predict at the moment-

I don't know what the future holds but a good deal of the inventory in US stores? Imported- And breaks easily- From high end stores to low end stores- Would robot manufacturing produce quality products or just more of the same?

I'm not against importing altogether- But I am all for products that hold up- Anker products come from China and I like them just fine-
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Re: Trump won

Postby partofit22 on Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:49 am

Humbaba wrote:
partofit22 wrote:I think a good deal of what we're presently experiencing is a direct result of helicopter politics and parenting- The mutual respect and true sense of community, both local and global, that helicoptering was predicted to produce didn't happen- If anything it created rifts- It created special interests- It created trigger warnings and present day Detroit- It created a population of people that can't handle failure, a population that resorts to name calling instead of stringing together sentences that bridge the ever increasing gaps that people imagine they have simply due to differences in perspective and beliefs-

I think that Trump and Brexit are two manifestation of an increasing polarization of society.

Economically, this polarization results in increasing inequality between rich and poor, both nationally and internationally. Politically, there is a breakdown of dialogue between the so-called "establishment" and populist forces at the political extremes on the far-right or far-left.

The digital revolution, instead of assisting communication, serves as a multiplier of political bias. Both sides have fabricated a biased narrative that is spread ceaseless via the digital networks.

Perhaps it is symbolic that we commemorate the 300th anniversary of Leibniz's death, who laid the philosophical foundations of binary thinking. Leibniz was perhaps the first Western philosopher who found inspiration in Far Eastern philosophy. In Leibniz's binary thinking, god is 1 and not god is 0.

Is the world going haywire because we get bogged down ever deeper in dualistic thinking?


Based on my own hopes and fears that I may notice on any given day, I'd say yes- As far as the election is concerned, in specific areas where headway has been made, people hope not to have to lose or are afraid of losing that which they have gained -- or others have gained- Like basic human rights as well as necessities- I see no other option for, or or have a problem with, anyone engaging in a process to retain what's been gained- And they have my support although they didn't have my vote because while I appreciate the necessity and importance to focus on specific groups I'd like to see the people of this country addressed as whole-
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Re: Trump won

Postby Humbaba on Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:18 pm

partofit22 wrote:Based on my own hopes and fears that I may notice on any given day, I'd say yes- As far as the election is concerned, in specific areas where headway has been made, people hope not to have to lose or are afraid of losing that which they have gained -- or others have gained- Like basic human rights as well as necessities- I see no other option for, or or have a problem with, anyone engaging in a process to retain what's been gained- And they have my support although they didn't have my vote because while I appreciate the necessity and importance to focus on specific groups I'd like to see the people of this country addressed as whole-

I thing a holistic (funny that it's not spelled: "wholistic") approach is obviously desirable. However, we have problems implementing this on the national level, let alone on the international level.

Trump's plans for tax cuts will make the rich richer and those who voted for him because the feel "left behind" risk becoming poorer. Trump's desire to "make America great again" risks strengthening the selfishness of the rich industrial nations, while leaving the poor countries to further sink into poverty. And Trump's denial of man-made climate change risks undermining efforts to fight climate change and efforts to mitigate problems due to climate change in poor countries. And the low level of Trump's election campaign makes a farce of democracy playing into the hand of non-democratic countries like China which object to such a system being pushed onto the rest of the world. Thus, Trump risks making things worse than they already are.

The laid-off workers in the rust-belt voted for Trump because they feel resentment against the global elite. But the really poor are in the developing world not in the rust-belt. And rich countries like the US need the global elite and their corporations such as Apple to create new prosperity, otherwise even those who feel left behind would be even worse off.

Digital technology has turned the world into a village. The undernourished peasant in Africa can see how people live in opulence in the West with big cars and big villas.

The populist focus on defending our own group at the expense of all others is a recipe for disaster.

The innermost desires of humans cannot be fulfilled by consumerism. In the end, we have to let go of material possessions. Throwing overboard dead weight one piece at a time can also be a good practice.
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Re: Trump won

Postby Oheso on Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:04 pm

From the "post election statement of the Brooklyn Zen Center":

While the violence that may seem surprising to some in this election has a long history, while the rhetoric of this campaign is a symptom and not an isolatable cause of the behaviors that women, people of color, LGBTQ communities, immigrants, Muslims, Jews and others have experienced long before the last eighteen months, we do not believe this election is any sort of business as usual. Misogynist, xenophobic, Islamaphobic, homophobic and racial violence were defended and sometimes explicitly called for throughout this campaign. The outcome of this election risks affirming that violence while adding to it the authority of the State.

bolds are mine. full statement is here: https://brooklynzen.org/election-statement/

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Re: Trump won

Postby Humbaba on Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:23 am

Oheso wrote:we do not believe this election is any sort of business as usual. Misogynist, xenophobic, Islamaphobic, homophobic and racial violence were defended and sometimes explicitly called for throughout this campaign.

True! If the political leaders of a country show that it is acceptable to despise minorities or humiliate women, then that sends a catastrophic message to the people. In the UK, hate crime against foreigners has increased by about 40% as a result of the Brexit referendum campaign. People are attacked in public places simply for speaking a foreign language. If politicians from all parties keep on saying that "immigration is the problem," then it is not surprising that some people should take it into their head to see immigrants as the problem that must be dealt with.

The outcome of this election risks affirming that violence while adding to it the authority of the State.

If Trumps populist approach fails to achieve results in the real world, then there is indeed the danger that he may turn into an authoritarian leader. But aside from that, the state is weakened not strengthened because the social fabric is destroyed by increasing polarization.
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Re: Trump won

Postby partofit22 on Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:30 am

Humbaba wrote:
partofit22 wrote:Based on my own hopes and fears that I may notice on any given day, I'd say yes- As far as the election is concerned, in specific areas where headway has been made, people hope not to have to lose or are afraid of losing that which they have gained -- or others have gained- Like basic human rights as well as necessities- I see no other option for, or or have a problem with, anyone engaging in a process to retain what's been gained- And they have my support although they didn't have my vote because while I appreciate the necessity and importance to focus on specific groups I'd like to see the people of this country addressed as whole-

I thing a holistic (funny that it's not spelled: "wholistic") approach is obviously desirable. However, we have problems implementing this on the national level, let alone on the international level.

Trump's plans for tax cuts will make the rich richer and those who voted for him because the feel "left behind" risk becoming poorer. Trump's desire to "make America great again" risks strengthening the selfishness of the rich industrial nations, while leaving the poor countries to further sink into poverty. And Trump's denial of man-made climate change risks undermining efforts to fight climate change and efforts to mitigate problems due to climate change in poor countries. And the low level of Trump's election campaign makes a farce of democracy playing into the hand of non-democratic countries like China which object to such a system being pushed onto the rest of the world. Thus, Trump risks making things worse than they already are.

The laid-off workers in the rust-belt voted for Trump because they feel resentment against the global elite. But the really poor are in the developing world not in the rust-belt. And rich countries like the US need the global elite and their corporations such as Apple to create new prosperity, otherwise even those who feel left behind would be even worse off.

Digital technology has turned the world into a village. The undernourished peasant in Africa can see how people live in opulence in the West with big cars and big villas.

The populist focus on defending our own group at the expense of all others is a recipe for disaster.

The innermost desires of humans cannot be fulfilled by consumerism. In the end, we have to let go of material possessions. Throwing overboard dead weight one piece at a time can also be a good practice.


As a whole, we co-shape our global community- Some do this, others do that, but the workings aren't separate- They're interconnected-

Some people believe a Trump presidency isn't business as usual, many of which voted for him due to that fact- But then again many who didn't vote for him voted against business as usual, too- The professor mentioned in Joe's previous post indicated that if "the people" aren't happy with the party in office that the party in office will lose -- which they did- Had those who voted against business as usual did vote for Donald Trump instead, it appears he'd of won the popular vote as well- But I don't know for certain if that is true- Nonetheless, that translates into a good deal of unhappy people- People who might be happy he won the election but continue suffering nonetheless- And Hillary's camp isn't any different- There's no scapegoat, there's nobody in particular to blame- Everyone is accountable -- or responsible-

The Trump victory has provided many opportunities to examine attachments, lack of attention and seeing beliefs as beliefs, as authentic and yet flexible, as part of the spectrum of beliefs presented before, during and after the election and how they take shape and change-

A Trump presidency will provide opportunities to make whatever he throws at us moments to interact compassionately but not passively when such times present themselves-

I don't know if the innermost desires of humans will never be fulfilled- I've read The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up: The Japanese Art of Decluttering and Organizing by Marie Kondo -- twice- Maybe you'd like it?

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Re: Trump won

Postby Avisitor on Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:22 am

desert_woodworker wrote:Ha, I just learned from The CIA World Factbook 2016 that Saudi Arabia "is the largest country in the world without a river."

Did not know that.

"Trump Won"

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Re: Trump won

Postby partofit22 on Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:29 pm

And away we go!

gleason.jpg


So .. on the day of the inauguration there were protests -- Antifa was in attendance-

Yesterday there was a women's march on every continent -- in conjunction with the women's march on Washington- Oddly, or not, women who believe in right to life were invited then dis-invited-

There is talk that the The National Endowment for the Arts and National Endowment for the Humanities are on the chopping block- (again?)

The removal of scientific data from the White House website, but supposedly not from the EPA, NOAA, NASA and USGS- Nonetheless, a group of scientists and programmers harvested the information to keep in storage during the Trump administration-

Residents of the UK and Canada headed to the women's march yesterday were detained at the US border and turned away-
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Re: Trump won

Postby fukasetsu on Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:23 pm

partofit22 wrote:Yesterday there was a women's march on every continent -- in conjunction with the women's march on Washington- Oddly, or not, women who believe in right to life were invited then dis-invited-


I happened to watch CNN International for a bit and found it funny because there were woman on the newsroom panel, and one of them (a Trump voter) said something like: They shouldn't call it a woman's march (but just a march or a man's march, as in human not man or men, I dunno the difference) Eventhough I'm always flabbergasted what people fight over, I do have to say she has a point (42% of woman voted for Trump, is that correct?)

Anyways I'm not a Trump lover (nor would be a voter if I could) but I do have to say many of those protesters seem childish and sore losers to me, I'm sure that if Hilary would have won there wouldn't be any protest, ironically those people (democrats?) are demonstrating and causing division like no other, whilst they accuse Trump of those very same things. It's interesting behaviour but silly to observe from over here in the corner of my imagination. I mean the Democrats lost, get over it. :peace:

And though most protesters are non-violent it's always ridiculous to see how a small group thinks protesting means damaging stores and what not, I mean the longer I'm on this prison planet the less it interests me and consider to be just an observing tourist or something instead of a participant of the whole human thingy, it's my last trip (sorry Joe)
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Re: Trump won

Postby partofit22 on Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:24 am

fukasetsu wrote:
partofit22 wrote:Yesterday there was a women's march on every continent -- in conjunction with the women's march on Washington- Oddly, or not, women who believe in right to life were invited then dis-invited-


I happened to watch CNN International for a bit and found it funny because there were woman on the newsroom panel, and one of them (a Trump voter) said something like: They shouldn't call it a woman's march (but just a march or a man's march, as in human not man or men, I dunno the difference) Eventhough I'm always flabbergasted what people fight over, I do have to say she has a point (42% of woman voted for Trump, is that correct?)

Anyways I'm not a Trump lover (nor would be a voter if I could) but I do have to say many of those protesters seem childish and sore losers to me, I'm sure that if Hilary would have won there wouldn't be any protest, ironically those people (democrats?) are demonstrating and causing division like no other, whilst they accuse Trump of those very same things. It's interesting behaviour but silly to observe from over here in the corner of my imagination. I mean the Democrats lost, get over it. :peace:

And though most protesters are non-violent it's always ridiculous to see how a small group thinks protesting means damaging stores and what not, I mean the longer I'm on this prison planet the less it interests me and consider to be just an observing tourist or something instead of a participant of the whole human thingy, it's my last trip (sorry Joe)


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It's winter- :)

The truth is dark under your eyelids.
What are you going to do about it?
The birds are silent; there's no one to ask.
All day long you'll squint at the gray sky.
When the wind blows you'll shiver like straw.

A meek little lamb you grew your wool
Till they came after you with huge shears.
Flies hovered over open mouth,
Then they, too, flew off like the leaves,
The bare branches reached after them in vain.

Winter coming. Like the last heroic soldier
Of a defeated army, you'll stay at your post,
Head bared to the first snow flake.
Till a neighbor comes to yell at you,
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I'm reading a book about Finland- I chose it for it's adorable cover- Some critics have called the book naive- But people tend to do that when a simple but insightful fact is presented- In other words, the book isn't complicated- It's called The Nordic Theory of Everything- It's funny how reading a few sentences strung together can alter perspective-

The Women's March on Washington: A show of support for human rights at the core- But yes, many supporters did express themselves in ways that, ironically, do not represent human rights- (And Trump supporters have their own way of "making waves', too) Women/people around the globe also marched in support and according to the news I've read not a single arrest was made, there was no vandalism or violence- But there was at the protests on Friday when Trump was inaugurated-
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Re: Trump won

Postby Linda Anderson on Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:05 am

Fuki, et al...

You missed "The Netherlands Welcomes Trump".... :lol2: The following link is to Facebook, I don't know how to get only the video. Don't worry!! you won't be scared for life! and... I don't know if the link will work... scroll down on this man's page until you see the video. You're the only one who won't need subtitles. He does a pretty good imitation... hilarious

Zondag met Luback....

here's the facebook link... you may be able to peek in. ... better, has subtitles until the English starts...

https://www.facebook.com/zondagmetlubach/videos/1255295904562149/?pnref=story

here's Zondag's website... scroll down to "America First, The Netherlands Second".... after the commercial...
http://www.vpro.nl/zondag-met-lubach.html

you'll have to have a background in his crazy culture to get the jokes....
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Re: Trump won

Postby Linda Anderson on Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:45 am

First lesson: don't associate CNN with truth. no, no!

Second lesson: follow the money... to #1.

Third lesson: Voter statistics are bad on a good day. A national disgrace that about 50% voted at all. Shocking that indeed over 50% women voted for Delusional Don.... so that comes down to a fraction of the 25% of total eligible voters that voted for DT. I'm sure I'm off on the numbers and %, but you get the idea. AND, don't fall for the story that he would have gotten more if the illegal immigrants hadn't voted.... This is the first time in history that the NYT (New York Times) has run a headline calling the president a liar: "President Trump Falsely Claims that illegals had cost him the popular vote"............ BUT you have to watch these guys... by this afternoon the NYT headline read: "President Trump repeats lie that illegals cost him the popular vote"... never in my life have I seen a president being accused of lying by NYT. Anyway, it's a paper that I wouldn't pay money for, no siree. It was the best in it's day... so long ago. Ofc, it's not unusual i n the alternate news media.

The women's march needed to happen. It's a mixed bag in my view.... partly a corporatist sponsored game. It got women together.... women and men, it went beyond ideology, tho you'll hear otherwise. My prayer, just like the election where all the cheating backfired.... it will blow up in the corporatist's face. Women and men marched, no boundaries with ethnicity, race or sex. I've heard some felt left out... there is an element of self selection too. Ppl who didn't need to feel left out. Ppl who misunderstood it's purpose... never mind, I'm praying the archetype was ignited. Caitlin provides a holistic view...

Caitlin Johnstone, This Isn’t Feminism, This Is Corporatism In A Vagina Hat

https://www.facebook.com/zondagmetlubach/?pnref=story

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partofit22 wrote:Yesterday there was a women's march on every continent -- in conjunction with the women's march on Washington- Oddly, or not, women who believe in right to life were invited then dis-invited-


I happened to watch CNN International for a bit and found it funny because there were woman on the newsroom panel, and one of them (a Trump voter) said something like: They shouldn't call it a woman's march (but just a march or a man's march, as in human not man or men, I dunno the difference) Eventhough I'm always flabbergasted what people fight over, I do have to say she has a point (42% of woman voted for Trump, is that correct?)

Anyways I'm not a Trump lover (nor would be a voter if I could) but I do have to say many of those protesters seem childish and sore losers to me, I'm sure that if Hilary would have won there wouldn't be any protest, ironically those people (democrats?) are demonstrating and causing division like no other, whilst they accuse Trump of those very same things. It's interesting behaviour but silly to observe from over here in the corner of my imagination. I mean the Democrats lost, get over it. :peace:

And though most protesters are non-violent it's always ridiculous to see how a small group thinks protesting means damaging stores and what not, I mean the longer I'm on this prison planet the less it interests me and consider to be just an observing tourist or something instead of a participant of the whole human thingy, it's my last trip (sorry Joe)
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Re: Trump won

Postby macdougdoug on Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:57 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELD2AwFN9Nc

The Netherlands welcomes Donald Trump, its amazing, totally true, its great!
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