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Postby partofit22 on Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:14 pm

Goldman Sachs just gave Bernie Sanders the best inadvertent endorsement ever

The presidential candidacy of Vermont senator Bernie Sanders “has the potential to be a dangerous moment,” according to Lloyd Blankfein.

The chairman and CEO of investment back Goldman Sachs told CNBC yesterday (Feb. 3) that Sanders’s angry rhetoric against the financial industry has wide implications, “not just for Wall Street, not just for the people who are particularly targeted, but for anybody who is a little bit out of line.” He added: “It’s a liability to say I’m going to compromise, I’m going to get one millimeter off the extreme position I have and if you do you have to back track and swear to people that you’ll never compromise. It’s just incredible. It’s a moment in history.”

Any criticism coming from one of the world’s most prominent bankers will likely bolster Sanders’s appeal among his supporters. Journalist Glenn Greenwald called it “the most powerful endorsement yet” for the campaign.

Meanwhile, former secretary of state Hillary Clinton is struggling to justify her ties to the bank, which is a lightning rod for critics of Wall Street. Asked by CNN’s Anderson Cooper why she accepted $660,000 in speaking fees from Goldman, she said: “Well, I don’t know. That’s what they offered.” http://qz.com/610060/goldman-sachss-ceo-just-gave-bernie-sanders-the-best-inadvertent-endorsement-ever/
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby partofit22 on Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:17 pm

Elizabeth Warren defends Bernie Sanders from Goldman Sachs CEO
By Hanna Trudo
02/03/16 10:29 PM EST

Elizabeth Warren defended Bernie Sanders on Wednesday after Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein said the Vermont senator's anti-Wall Street rhetoric could be "dangerous."

"He thinks it’s fine to prosecute small business owners, it’s fine to go hard after individuals who have no real resources, but don’t criticize companies like Goldman Sachs and their very, very important CEO — that’s what he’s really saying,” the Massachusetts senator said in an interview with the International Business Times.

Blankfein made his criticism of the Vermont senator’s attacks on the banking industry in an interview on CNBC Wednesday, warning that his populism-fueled campaign “has the potential to be a dangerous moment — not just for Wall Street, not just for the people who are particularly targeted, but for anybody who is a little bit out of line.”

Warren, whose fiery denunciations of Wall Street mirror Sanders' own, fired right back.

“When Blankfein says that criticizing those who break the rules is dangerous to the economy, then he’s just repeating another variation of ‘too big to fail,’ ‘too big to jail,’ 'too big even to prosecute,'” she said.

In an interview with Bloomberg Politics in January, Sanders slammed Blankfein for continuing to make enormous sums of money “after destroying the economy.” He has repeatedly singled out Goldman Sachs, whose employees have given generously to Clinton over the years, as an example of corporate greed.

Warren has not yet endorsed a Democratic candidate for president.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby another_being on Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:27 pm

Thanks for posting. Glad he's making them nervous. Go Bernie! And Elizabeth! :)
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby partofit22 on Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:35 am

You're welcome- :)
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby partofit22 on Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:43 am

Information on where to register to vote, deadlines for primary, presidential and more ..

http://www.mytimetovote.com/
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby fukasetsu on Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:30 pm

another_being wrote:Thanks for posting. Glad he's making them nervous. Go Bernie! And Elizabeth! :)


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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Lycorth on Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:22 am

Go Bernie! :)
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby partofit22 on Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:41 pm

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby Jojo on Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:15 pm

I wish him the best of luck.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby partofit22 on Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:52 pm

I'm confused- Media sources indicate Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders won the primary in New Hampshire, with more emphasis on Donald Trump- Was there an "overall" winner number wise state wide? I know I sound like a dunce and rightly so .. but

Bernie Sanders: 13 Delegates / 60.3% Votes

Donald Trump: 10 Delegates / 35.5 Votes
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby desert_woodworker on Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:56 pm

P., Teresa,

They won in each of their party's Primary. That is, they ran (and are still running) in different parties.

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby partofit22 on Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:59 pm

desert_woodworker wrote:P., Teresa,

They won in each of their party's Primary. That is, they ran (and are still running) in different parties.

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Thank you, Joe- I got that part- I was wondering if one did better than the other .. yes/no .. not possible to answer?
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby desert_woodworker on Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:11 pm

P.,

partofit22 wrote:Thank you, Joe- I got that part- I was wondering if one did better than the other .. yes/no .. not possible to answer?

A win is a win!

But I'd say that Bernie did better, because he was in a field (flock) of only two, and won almost 2-to-1, while Trump was in a thicker thicket. Well, this kind of relativity is also relative, eh, Cousin? :tongueincheek:

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby partofit22 on Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:05 am

desert_woodworker wrote:P.,

partofit22 wrote:Thank you, Joe- I got that part- I was wondering if one did better than the other .. yes/no .. not possible to answer?

A win is a win!

But I'd say that Bernie did better, because he was in a field (flock) of only two, and won almost 2-to-1, while Trump was in a thicker thicket. Well, this kind of relativity is also relative, eh, Cousin? :tongueincheek:

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I thought he did better too -- then didn't- Then did- Then didn't- Then was just unsure- So keep digging ..
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby partofit22 on Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:12 am

Q: You say Superdelegates don’t matter, but I don’t even know what they are. How does Hillary have 300+ already?

A: Let’s start simple: The Democratic nominee for president is decided based on which candidate wins the most delegates. You will find conflicting information about how many there are in 2016, but according to the AP, the delegate total is 4,763. It takes 2,382 of those to secure the nomination. And of the 4,763, 712 are “Superdelegates”—about 15 percent of the overall total.

Q: Okay, but what’s the difference?

A: The 4,051 “normal” delegates are allocated based on the votes in each state. That’s why we have primaries and caucuses in all of them, eventually—the will of the people decides where each of these delegates goes. In New Hampshire last night, Sanders won 13 delegates to Clinton’s nine, with two left to award when the last precincts report (in all likelihood, based on current percentages, it will finish 15-9 for Sanders). In Iowa, where Clinton won a narrow victory, the current delegate count is 23-21 in her favor. This process will repeat in every state until all 4,051 “normal” delegates have been alloted.

On the Democratic side, these delegates are rewarded proportionally in each state, rather than on the winner-take-all basis most states use in the electoral college. Those delegates are “pledged” to the appropriate candidate, and will not change affiliation at the national convention.

Q: That makes sense, but what are Superdelegates?

A: The remaining 712 delegates are not decided by each state’s popular vote, but rather by individuals who are given a vote by the Democratic party. They are free to choose whoever they want at the national convention, regardless of how the vote went in their home state.

Q: Who gets to be a Superdelegate?

A: Every Democratic member of Congress, House and Senate, is a Superdelegate (240 total). Every Democratic governor is a Superdelegate (20 total). Certain “distinguished party leaders,” 20 in all, are given Superdelegate status. And finally, the Democratic National Committee names an additional 432 Superdelegates—an honor that typically goes to mayors, chairs and vice-chairs of the state party, and other dignitaries.

Q: So they have way more importance than an ordinary voter?

A: Oh yeah. In 2008, each Superdelegate had about as much clout as 10,000 voters. It will be roughly the same in 2016.

Q: How did this system come to exist?

A: I’ll make this history lesson brief: In 1968, after the riots at the Democratic national convention in Chicago, party leaders knew they needed to change the nomination process to give ordinary people more of a say in how the potential president was chosen. Thus, the state-by-state primary/caucus system was born. By the 1980s, the party elites felt left out of the process, bereft of all influence, and they thought their absence had hurt the party with weaker candidates like George McGovern and Jimmy Carter. Jim Hunt, Governor of North Carolina, was commissioned to come up with a new system, and by 1984 the Superdelegate system was implemented. Democrats thought that by giving more power to party leaders, it would prevent “unelectable” candidates, beloved by the populace, from costing them the general election.

Q: Why does Hillary Clinton have so many more Superdelegates this time around?

A: Because Superdelegates are the establishment, and Clinton is the establishment candidate. Period.

A quick look at the chart below, courtesy of Wikipedia, shows how insanely imbalanced the Superdelegate race is at this point in time:

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In Congress, Hillary Clinton has 39 of the 47 Senators, with seven uncommitted. Bernie Sanders has an endorsement from just one Senator. That Senator’s name? Bernie Sanders. In the House, Hillary leads 157-2, and her advantage in the DNC is 138-10. Even among the “distinguished party leaders,” which includes Bill Clinton, Howard Dean, Dick Gephardt, and Walter Mondale, she leads eight to one. Overall, the total is 355-14, with 341 uncommitted.

So when you see tweets like McBride’s above, where he cites Clinton’s 431-50 edge, he’s adding these “pledged” Superdelegates. We’ve already seen that his math is wrong—per the New York Times, the actual updated total is 394-42. But when you look at actual popular votes that have taken place, Sanders leads 34-32.

Q: From everything you’ve told me so far, I can’t understand why you’re calling Superdelegate votes “irrelevant.” It seems to me like they have the same voting power as a normal delegate, and this puts Sanders in a tremendous hole from the word “go.”

A: Here’s why it doesn’t matter: Superdelegates have never decided a Democratic nomination. It would be insane, even by the corrupt standards of the Democratic National Committee, if a small group of party elites went against the will of the people to choose the presidential nominee.

This has already been an incredibly tense election, and Sanders voters are already expressing their unwillingness to vote for Clinton in the general election. When you look at the astounding numbers from Iowa and New Hampshire, where more than 80 percent of young voters have chosen Sanders over Clinton, regardless of gender, it’s clear that Clinton already finds herself in a very tenuous position for the general election. It will be tough to motivate young supporters, but any hint that Bernie was screwed by the establishment will result in total abandonment.

Democrats win when turnout is high, and if the DNC decides to go against the will of the people and force Clinton down the electorate’s throat, they’d be committing political suicide.

The important thing to know here is that Superdelegates are merely pledged to a candidate. We know who they support because they’ve stated it publicly, or been asked by journalists. They are not committed, and can change at any time. If Bernie Sanders wins the popular vote, he will be the nominee. End of story.

Q: But it’s not the end of the story, is it? Hasn’t the DNC pulled some shady shit already?

A: Oh yeah. They totally rigged the debate schedule to limit Sanders’ exposure, and now that he’s gaining ground on Clinton, they’re desperate to add more. Sanders probably won the popular vote in Iowa, but the party elite there are refusing to release popular vote totals, even though that’s exactly what they did in 2008. It’s been an embarrassment of Clinton protectionism from the very beginning.

However, that doesn’t mean they’ll overthrow the will of the people when it comes to the presidential nomination. Assuming Sanders wins the popular vote nationwide, and assuming the Superdelegates put Clinton over the top, let’s consider the consequences:

1. Sanders supporters abandon Clinton completely, cutting off a huge portion of her base.

2. Massive protests at the convention, and a party split in half.

3. Republicans have the easiest attack in presidential election history: “Her own party didn’t even want her!”

4. The perception that Clinton is a dishonest politician grows wings, and even if people are reluctant to vote for the GOP nominee, an independent like Bloomberg could strip away an awful lot of votes.

All of this spells disaster for the Democrats. It may not be too corrupt for the DNC to imagine—they’ve got good imaginations—but it’s too transparent to execute. The winner of the delegate count from state primaries and caucuses will win the nomination, and the Superdelegates will fall in line. Just as they have in every single election since the system was implemented. (Including in 2008, when this same concern was raised—would Superdelegates cost Obama the nomination?)

Even the Democratic power structure isn’t so short-sighted that it would cut off its nose to spite its face.

Q: If Superdelegates can shift allegiances, and if going against the people’s will is so unthinkable, why don’t the pundits ever mention it?

A: It’s almost like there’s an agenda, right? Not to keep picking on McBride, who is a very minor figure in all this, and who had the bad luck to appear on my timeline yesterday, but what purpose do those numbers serve other than to discourage Sanders supporters? They’re essentially meaningless, but when presented without context, they give the impression of an unbeatable juggernaut, and tacitly encourage outsiders to give up all hope. On a smaller level, it’s the same when you see charts like these, from Politico:

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Sanders wins, but still loses the delegate count? How? Why?

It’s enough to provoke despair, if you don’t understand the system, and none of these outlets are bothering to explain. The reader is left to draw his or her own conclusions, and it can seem overwhelming. I don’t know if the explicit goal is to have a chilling effect on participation, and to discourage passionate people from participating in our democracy, but it certainly feels that way.

So, do yourself a favor and ignore the Superdelegates. If Hillary Clinton wins the most popular delegates, she will be the party nominee. If Bernie Sanders wins the most popular delegates, he will be the party nominee. And anyone who tells you otherwise—even by implication, and even armed with misleading statistics—is selling you a bill of goods. Don’t buy it.


Portion of Q and A from Paste Magazine http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/02/after-sanders-big-win-in-new-hampshire-establishme.html
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby another_being on Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:32 pm

Thanks for sharing that. ^
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby partofit22 on Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:20 am

FiveThirtyEight - A blog by Nate Silver- 2016 Primary Forecasts / Both parties / The odds and polls for presidential primaries and caucuses, updated daily.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/nevada-democratic/
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby partofit22 on Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:13 pm

Tulsi Gabbard Resigns from DNC to Back Bernie Sanders

Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard announced on “Meet the Press” Sunday morning that she was stepping down as vice chair of the Democratic National Committee and endorsing Vermont Sen. Bernard Sanders for president.

“As a veteran, as a soldier, I’ve seen firsthand the true cost of war,” Gabbard said. “As we look at our choices as to who our next Commander-in-chief will be is to recognize the necessity to have a commander-in-chief who has foresight. Who exercises good judgment. Who looks beyond the consequences — who looks at the consequences of the actions that they are willing to take before they take those actions. So that we don’t continue to find ourselves in these failures that have resulted in chaos in the Middle East and so much loss of life,” Gabbard said.

When pressed by moderator Chuck Todd about previous statements she’s made about a president needing a “military mindset,” Gabbard said Sanders has such a mindset. That means, she said, analyzing “how and when we use our military power — and just as importantly, when we don’t use that military power.”

Sanders, campaigning in Minnesota Sunday morning, called Gabbard “one of the important voices of a new generation of leaders” in a statement. “As a veteran of the Iraq War she understands the cost of war and is fighting to create a foreign policy that not only protects America but keeps us out of perpetual wars that we should not be in,” Sanders said.

After calling for more Democratic debates, Gabbard said she was disinvited from the first Democratic primary debate in Nevada last year — a characterization the DNC disputed. “When I signed up to be vice chair of the D.N.C., no one told me I would be relinquishing my freedom of speech and checking it at the door,” Gabbard said at the time.

http://atr.rollcall.com/tulsi-gabbard-resigns-dnc-back-bernie-sanders/
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby partofit22 on Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:42 pm

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Postby fukasetsu on Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:54 pm

“As a veteran, as a soldier, I’ve seen firsthand the true cost of war,” Gabbard said


As a Mother, as a father, as a victim, as a this or that....
Anyone starting a sentence like this is already suggestively influencing (manipulating) the target audience...

influence, it can be a fever (influenza), eh?

Please don't say I'm right, it's just an observation :tongueincheek:

Campaining, saying what a target audience wants to hear... plastic.
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