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Re: play

Postby Guo Gu on Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:29 am

fukasetsu wrote: There seem to two kinds of searchers: those who seek to make their ego something other than it is, i.e. holy, happy, unselfish (as though you could make a fish unfish), :lol2: and those who understand that all such attempts are just gesticulation and play-acting, that there is only one thing that can be done, which is to disidentify themselves with the ego, by realising its unreality, and by becoming aware of their eternal identity with pure being.
~Wei wu wei


wuwei is "youwei"; both types seek to do this or that.... samsaric! the first mistakes a gem for a piece of poo; the second dwells in the limbo of emptiness.

linji would have given wuwei a good shout. :ninja: and by the way, this would be a shout that neither takes away the person nor the environment.
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Re: play

Postby fukasetsu on Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:19 pm

Thanks for braking it down Guo Gu, much appreciated, I know (or sense) the errors in the quote (and in many quotes I post) but I still feel they can be helpful in the right conditions, hence I basically post just whatever pops up, since it was once helpful to me too.

Thanks for the poo, dear one. :)

ps I like it when you take down stuff :ninja:

"Sometimes I take away man and do not take away the surroundings,
Sometimes I take away the surroundings and not the man,
Sometimes I take away both
Sometimes I take away neither."

Sometimes I affirm.
Sometimes I deny.

Sometimes I neither
affirm nor deny.

Sometimes I affirm and deny,
simultaneously.

I am life – a paradox
to the certainty-seeking mind,
but never to a heart grown intimate
with its own unqualified nature.

To such a heart, I am fathomless peace,
ever-new joy, unaccountably free –
your own open spaciousness –
expressing itself as the simple
innocent truth at the core
of every moment, both
in and out of time.

Love, how can I be other?

I am your brother, your mother,
your teacher, your fool.

I am a drop-out
from the holy saint school,
a drip of doggy drool,
a footless stepping stool,
a double-edged tool
of the true nondual,
a non-exception
to the golden rule,
a cool crystal pool
behind your hazy
eye wool.

I descend from the skies
to kiss those eyes –

I am the kissing,
the kissed,
the kiss.

I am
what it is
when you ask,

“What is this?”

Historians lie
and prophets are blind.

I am the light
behind their mind.

Yes, No?
What the hell –

let’s slip through the crack
in the Liberty Bell!
~Sir Bob
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Re: play

Postby Guo Gu on Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:11 am

how' are y'all doing?
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Re: play

Postby Chrisd on Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:13 pm

great how are you :heya:
woken up any students as of late? :lol2:
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Re: play

Postby fukasetsu on Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:21 pm

Guo Gu wrote:how' are y'all doing?

I'm well, hope all is well with you too.

There's no way out Chris.
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Re: play

Postby Guo Gu on Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:21 pm

fuki, i.a.g. brother.

that's the way in, chris. dig!
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Re: play

Postby Avisitor on Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:33 am

Guo Gu wrote:how' are y'all doing?

Feeling good.
Wishing you be well.
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Re: play

Postby fukasetsu on Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:41 am

Chrisd wrote:woken up any students as of late? :lol2:


I met an Italian girl in town Saturday night, we ended up at my place,
neither of us woke up the next day :lol2:
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Re: play

Postby Chrisd on Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:35 pm

maybe waking up is overrated.

fukasetsu wrote:
Chrisd wrote:woken up any students as of late? :lol2:


I met an Italian girl in town Saturday night, we ended up at my place,
neither of us woke up the next day :lol2:
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Re: play

Postby Chrisd on Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:46 pm

Everyday I'm shoveling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ6zr6kCPj8

Guo Gu wrote:fuki, i.a.g. brother.

that's the way in, chris. dig!
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Re: play

Postby fukasetsu on Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:50 pm

Chrisd wrote:maybe waking up is overrated.


No, sex is. (or whatever attachment to a particular fleeting state)
Whatever happens can be enjoyed fully, but if there's a base desire to experience something, that is merely an avoiding strategy.
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Re: play

Postby fukasetsu on Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:52 pm

Chrisd wrote:Everyday I'm shoveling.


Remember when digging for a well to discard all that is not water. :heya:
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Re: play

Postby fukasetsu on Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:45 pm

desert_woodworker wrote:We're experiencing some breathtaking heat here this week. :tongueincheek:


desert_woodworker wrote:"Work"? Isn't there an injunction against 4-letter words on this board?


It's a perfect 16-18 degrees celcius here Joe, work no that's a dirty word, every activity is play to me.

http://vid56.photobucket.com/albums/g17 ... ipo2di.mp4

Met a woman in a wheelchair in the dunes today, she couldn't speak so she had one of those typing devices on her wheelchair,
she had a captivating 'aura' a Hindu red dot on her forehead so we talked a little bit, what was amazing is that she showed me pictures of her with dear and foxes playing with her in the dunes.
All wild animals always come to her and the dance around her chair and play with her and kiss her face.
Was pretty special to meet such a 'natural communicator'
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Re: play

Postby Chrisd on Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:03 pm

When one is digging a well one pays no attention to this matter.
One just wants to get to the water, so everything is continuously and obviously put aside!
except for the water.

fukasetsu wrote:
Chrisd wrote:Everyday I'm shoveling.


Remember when digging for a well to discard all that is not water. :heya:
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Re: play

Postby desert_woodworker on Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:08 pm

Chris,

Chrisd wrote:One just wants to get to the water, so everything is continuously and obviously put aside!
except for the water.

Better put the water aside, too, while digging, lest one drown. Or, you'll become famous: "He died with his boots on!, and with a shovel in his hand!"

In The States, when a politician gets in trouble, say, for double-dealing, or some other scandal, and then tries to justify or rationalize it publicly, we advise,

"Hey, when you get to the bottom of a hole, stop digging!"

Just wanted to share that. :)

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Re: play

Postby fukasetsu on Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:17 pm

An old one from Bob.

Image

The Water Way

Standing knee-deep
in this nameless wild stream,
aglow in the waning warmth of a settling sun,
I savor the baptismal rush of cool running water.

Looking up, I see a Great Blue Heron
noiselessly turning the bend in the river,
vanishing now like a scene from a dream.

Every place is my favorite place
along this mountain stream.

This way there are no ambiguities,
no regrets or stipulations.

Every place has its own flavor and aroma,
its own unique blend of shadow and light
that can serve as happy inspirations.

No place is better or worse than the next;
seeking for one and avoiding the other
is the source of all complications.

When I enter the stream
of Love’s flowing mystery,
I myself become the stream.

When I become the stream,
I forget the stream.

Water forgets itself in me.
I forget myself in water.

This marriage will work!

Without any trace of discrimination,
water selflessly nourishes the thirsty realms
of the many hundreds of thousands of things
which are, in the interdependence of aquatics,
nothing but the drier extensions of itself
gracefully moving towards reunion.

Water sings, water answers.

Water is the song of itself, the same song
we sing when we are flowing freely with life,
as life itself — natural and spontaneous —
no longer inclined to cling or resist.

One might say it’s the Song of Love,
but if you say it’s “this” or “that”,
it answers: “both and neither”.

Bubbling up like a fountain of joy
it’s alive as mirth and pure delight!

It’s never trapped in duality’s snare,
it transcends both wrong and right.

Call it one, it assumes any shape.
Call it many, it is formless and empty.

It functions equally in movement and rest.
Put to the challenge, it passes Love’s test!

When the Water Lotus opens up,
every color bows down.

Be that bowing, clear water
pouring into clear water –

humble, ever grateful,
always bowing.

Image
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Re: play

Postby Chrisd on Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:30 pm

If I ever find the bottom of a hole, I'll stop digging Joe, thank you :tee:

I was reminded of Nisargadatta, which I will post here for no reason in particular.

Q: The search will come to an end. The seeker will remain.

Nisargadatta: no, the seeker will dissolve, the search will remain. The search is the ultimate and timeless
reality.

Q: search means lacking, wanting, incompleteness and imperfection.

Nisargadatta: no, it means refusal and rejection of the incomplete and the imperfect. The search for reality is
itself the movement of reality.

desert_woodworker wrote:Chris,

"Hey, when you get to the bottom of a hole, stop digging!"
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Re: play

Postby fukasetsu on Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:36 pm

Chrisd wrote:The search for reality is
itself the movement of reality.


rumi - what you seek.jpg


rumi 3.jpg


meister eckhart 4.jpg


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Re: play

Postby desert_woodworker on Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:58 pm

Chris,

Chrisd wrote:If I ever find the bottom of a hole, I'll stop digging Joe, thank you.

Yes, there's almost something of the koan about it, no? ;)

Chrisd wrote:Q: search means lacking, wanting, incompleteness and imperfection.

I've begun reading a book by a writer on Buddhist topics, David Loy: A BUDDHIST HISTORY OF THE WEST: STUDIES IN LACK (2002).

--Joe

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Re: play

Postby Chrisd on Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:24 pm

desert_woodworker wrote:Chris,

Chrisd wrote:If I ever find the bottom of a hole, I'll stop digging Joe, thank you.
Yes, there's almost something of the koan about it, no? ;)


yes.
enjoy your book!
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