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Re: play

Postby Guo Gu on Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:24 am

bokki,
thanks for bumping up this thread; all things come to pass.... or do they?
thanks also for your fart and cat cutting.
since you play all the time, how do you bring joy to others?
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Re: play

Postby bokki on Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:07 pm

since you play all the time, how do you bring joy to others?

LOL! HA HA HA HAAAHAHA! LOL! u just crack me up! LOL!!...LOL!!
Roshi, may i ask, how do you bring joy to others???

what i love about the questions like the 1 that Roshi asked is that they really work on many, ie, all, levels.
Roshi, do you think if i ask "how much is 10$?", is it a valid zen question? and only if it is ill play a bit with it..

it is an honor to talk to you (i musta done something good...in a previous life..LOL)
and, please, if its to your pleasure, post more playful stuff and questions!!
Roshi,.. :rbow:
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Re: play

Postby bokki on Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:57 pm

ENTER THE DRAGONS NEST!

HA!
A Dragon has invited you to his lair, his nest, his cave to PLAY! Do you have the guts to accept the invitation? It’s not like you’ll loose a limb or two, but if you keep your head, you may just be lucky to walk out without a head! Fear to appear foolish? Fear to not seem wise? YOU are invited by a dragon!!!

He knows about the past…since he comes from the future! He has invited YOU to his den to play!

Do you have the balls to accept the invitation, or are you so wise or humble or uninterested and will decline?
So, leave your thoughts, fears, ideas, prejudices, shame and wisdom far behind and ENTER THE DRAGONS DEN,
And PLAY!

b (inspired by gg)……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….!
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Re: play

Postby bokki on Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:47 am

oh, and i forgot..
all things come to pass.... or do they?

hello, hi, howdy......bye, bye.

anyone? everyone...?
since you play all the time, how do you bring joy to others?

what do u say..how do u bring joy to others?

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Re: play

Postby fukasetsu on Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:07 pm

bokki wrote:what do u say..how do u bring joy to others?


By not knowing others.
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Re: play

Postby Guo Gu on Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:28 pm

bokki, fuki,
now, you guys are making me smile... you are overthinking this waaaay too much :dance:
it was a simple question. how to bring joy to those you meet: "hi, bye"??!! "by not knowing others"?
i set up a premise and you fall in. in your answers there is already self and others, meeting and not meeting.
the premise is screwed up; there was no need to answer. you see?

life is like that. all kinds of premises and props... meeting, not meeting; self and those we meet; coming and going; and all the complications that come with human interaction. what's the scenario? why fall in?

there is no dragon if you don't create one
no lair, if there is no dragon
no levels, no coming, no going.
don't live in your dream
don't live in others' dream of you.

anyway, it's all for good fun.

be free,
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Re: play

Postby bokki on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:06 pm

:lol2: thank you Roshi, but in the light of
since you play all the time, how do you bring joy to others?

how come
it was a simple question. how to bring joy to those you meet

and then
in your answers there is already self and others, meeting and not meeting.

if there is no need to answer, why pose a question?
although the "hi,bye" was a reaction to "all things pass.. or do they?"
the scenario is always there. escaping it wont do. knowing it may help.
that is my ignorance.
could you please explain it more so that i can clearly see how another one sees it,or should i practice no one here, nothing to ask, nothing to answer?
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Re: play

Postby fukasetsu on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:21 pm

Guo Gu wrote:there is no dragon if you don't create one
no lair, if there is no dragon
no levels, no coming, no going.
don't live in your dream
don't live in others' dream of you.


I'm perfectly aware Guo Gu,
I don't normally respond to retorics
but in this play thread I see no reason to pretend to not dream
since not dreaming is only a part of the dream
so this way by not knowing others
I can be my gay self

But thanks a lot for your keen observations as always :)
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Re: play

Postby fukasetsu on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:24 pm

bokki wrote:if there is no need to answer, why pose a question?


For someone who loves to create koans you should know :PP:
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Re: play

Postby fukasetsu on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:28 pm

bokki wrote:could you please explain it more so that i can clearly see how another one sees it,or should i practice no one here, nothing to ask, nothing to answer?


Comon bokki, asking for an explanation is the death of play is it not? :heya:
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Re: play

Postby Spike on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:35 pm

bokki wrote:if there is no need to answer, why pose a question?


Could it be the opportunity to demonstrate that there is no need?

To admit the absolute, which is always present, into the picture?

I don't know, I am just a fellow commoner. It could be different if GG & S were together in the room, although some might disagree.

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Re: play

Postby fukasetsu on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:36 pm

fukasetsu wrote:
Guo Gu wrote:there is no dragon if you don't create one
no lair, if there is no dragon
no levels, no coming, no going.
don't live in your dream
don't live in others' dream of you.


I'm perfectly aware Guo Gu,
I don't normally respond to retorics
but in this play thread I see no reason to pretend to not dream
since not dreaming is only a part of the dream
so this way by not knowing others
I can be my gay self

But thanks a lot for your keen observations as always :)


ps
I know my comment "not knowing others" made you laugh, or at least smile :PP:
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Re: play

Postby fukasetsu on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:37 pm

Spike wrote:
bokki wrote:if there is no need to answer, why pose a question?


Could it be the opportunity to demonstrate that there is no need?

To admit the absolute, which is always present, into the picture?

I don't know, I am just a fellow commoner. It could be different if GG & S were together in the room, although some might disagree.

After I pet my dog, I am going to go ride my motorcycle and get my mind right.


Who is S here?

what kind of bike do you have? (post a picture please I love bikes)
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Re: play

Postby bokki on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:41 pm

Roshi,
if
no valley
no wide narrow open closed
who indeed

gotta keep going.

And then
since you play all the time, how do you bring joy to others?

Which I directly answered, and even asked you of your opinion as to your own question.
it was a simple question. how to bring joy to those you meet

in your answers there is already self and others, meeting and not meeting.

there was no need to answer. you see?

hmmm
Why question and then set up premises? Lol
The scenario is always, cant escape it, lucky to know about it.
Could you please explain what is it directly what are you saying, is it no me, no you nothing to ask, nothing to say?
Thank you very much Roshi!
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Re: play

Postby fukasetsu on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:44 pm

bokki wrote:Why question and then set up premises? Lol


Isn't that what play is?
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Re: play

Postby bokki on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:49 pm

that was a double post by ME
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Re: play

Postby Spike on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:53 pm

fukasetsu wrote:
Spike wrote:
bokki wrote:if there is no need to answer, why pose a question?


Could it be the opportunity to demonstrate that there is no need?

To admit the absolute, which is always present, into the picture?

I don't know, I am just a fellow commoner. It could be different if GG & S were together in the room, although some might disagree.

After I pet my dog, I am going to go ride my motorcycle and get my mind right.


Who is S here?

what kind of bike do you have? (post a picture please I love bikes)


S is Spike. See my avatar. I have a 2009 BMW R1200R. Previously, a 1969 (bought brand new) BMW R60US. I like slow twisty backroads.

Do you ride?
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Re: play

Postby bokki on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:57 pm

playing at oneness and then resorting to emptiness is not my kind of fun play
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Re: play

Postby Spike on Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:01 pm

bokki wrote:playing at oneness and then resorting to emptiness is not my kind of fun play


Right now show me the difference
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Re: play

Postby fukasetsu on Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:02 pm

Spike wrote:S is Spike. See my avatar. I have a 2009 BMW R1200R. Previously, a 1969 (bought brand new) BMW R60US. I like slow twisty backroads.

Do you ride?


Oh ofcourse, didn't know you had a third personality :tongueincheek:

Nice rides. No I don't ride since I have no license for car or motorcycle, but I do love them due to my brother always riding bikes.
I visit the WSBK and MotoGP almost every year in Assen, besides from the races I love to be stuck in traffic for hours just to see the thousands of motorcycles passing us by, and at the event too. I just enjoy their beauty and power, don't have that with cars at all.
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