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"Zazen perpetually", of Bankei

Postby desert_woodworker on Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:32 pm

Rinzai Zen Master Bankei (1622-1693) was a very popular teacher during his time. Mostly a man of the people, it's said that sometimes his talks would be attended by 50000 people. Fr. Dumoulin writes that "he laid all emphasis on the unborn Buddha heart". Indeed, very many of Bankei's recorded talks concern "the unborn".

A point that Bankei made is that zazen is not just for "sitting". Of course it is for sitting, and the true Mind in many discipes is first uncovered and enlivened through the practice of correct sitting. But, as Bankei writes, that Mind is to be allowed reign -- and that Mind can reign -- in all life's activities. He calls such reign, too, "zazen".

To show this, Dumoulin quotes the following from the written record of Bankei's speeches:

"Only sit with the Buddha-heart, be only with the Buddha-heart, sleep and arise
only with the Buddha-heart, and dwell only with the Buddha-heart! If your normal walking
and standing, your sitting and reclining, are the work of a living Buddha, nothing further
remains to be done. To sit contentedly in the consciousness of the Buddha-heart is
zazen. It is zazen perpetually, and not merely during the time of the practice of zazen
."


(-Heinrich Dumoulin; A HISTORY OF ZEN BUDDHISM; 1963; p. 233)

We can take Bankei's statements to his audiences about this not only to be exhortative, but also descriptive of his own experience in a life of practice. The key, of course, is that one has indeed uncovered the true Mind, the "Buddha-heart". Otherwise, the truth of Bankei's talks will not resonate. That is -- quite as usual amidst Zen Buddhist utterances for hearers -- experience is the key to conviction, and assent. But Bankei is also encouraging, because, in speaking from the uncovered Buddha-heart, Bankei assures hearers that uncovering the Buddha-heart is not only possible, but that it is also possible to speak from it. And to live all one's daily life from it:

"Walking, standing, sitting, reclining, sleeping, and arising".

No difference of "Mind" in performing those daily tasks... .

They are the zazen of the true Mind.

Hail!, true Dharma.

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Re: "Zazen perpetually", of Bankei

Postby fukasetsu on Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:29 am

desert_woodworker wrote:

Hail!, true Dharma.



Bankei above my couch
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Re: "Zazen perpetually", of Bankei

Postby Avisitor on Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:43 am

Didn't someone say that the words of the masters were taken out of context?
And interpreted as anyway a person wishes it to be?

To believe one way or the other is to have fallen off the razor's edge ... hahahaha

All these interesting stories, grist for the mill???

Can it be inspiration or is it just another whirl wind which traps the attention in a loop??

Got milk?? .... hahahaha
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Re: "Zazen perpetually", of Bankei

Postby desert_woodworker on Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:13 pm

Av,

Good questions for yourself, all of them.

If not just rhetorical, and if you're really interested, read ALL of Bankei's record. Then ask another question: does the material I saw quoted, and introduced in a context on Zen Forum International, mislead?, or is it representative?

Maybe you've already done this. Got thoughts?

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Re: "Zazen perpetually", of Bankei

Postby organizational on Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:36 pm

you are a funny guy
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Re: "Zazen perpetually", of Bankei

Postby desert_woodworker on Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:44 pm

Org.,

organizational wrote:you are a funny guy

I'd say we all know how to toss a ball
around, and have a good time.

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Re: "Zazen perpetually", of Bankei

Postby ed blanco on Tue Dec 15, 2015 7:45 pm

Hail! True Dharma!!!

Im cancer free!!!

Just got the results of blood test just done as the 3 months after prostate surgery checkup, and so my PSA is <0.01.
Hail true Dharma.

For Buddha heart, as a student here askes me how was I gonna celebrate this, I realized the celebration will be quiet and inner. This news comes right after a loss. Adelita, my lovely cousin, just died after 5 years battling this horrible desease.

My heart flies to those getting the other side of the stick. Even as I am happy beyond words, there is no celebration. I feel the fear I felt, for them now, and I'm there. Interdependece realized cuts deep and yet I feel stronger now.

Gee, I think I'm becoming a Buddhist after all.

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IN SPEECH YOU HEAR ITS SILENCE

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Re: "Zazen perpetually", of Bankei

Postby [james] on Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:05 pm

ed blanco wrote:
Im cancer free!!!


That's good news.

ed blanco wrote:
Gee, I think I'm becoming a Buddhist after all.

:O:


I hope all your Muslim sisters and brothers will be happy to hear that.
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Re: "Zazen perpetually", of Bankei

Postby ed blanco on Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:19 pm

Well, my brother-in-law is a muslim and he is very happy to hear that.
Thanks.
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Re: "Zazen perpetually", of Bankei

Postby desert_woodworker on Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:49 pm

Ed, I'm so pleased to learn your superb news!

I thank God, Buddha Nature, and all your lucky stars. Give my regards to Canopus!, α Carinae (Alpha Carinae).

What could be a better "gift" for Navidad? I'm so glad your health is restored.

Take good care of yourself, and all best to you and your family in this Season of Lights.

Yes, Hail!, true Dharma! :O: :)

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Re: "Zazen perpetually", of Bankei

Postby Chrisd on Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:04 am

congrats ed :Namaste:
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Re: "Zazen perpetually", of Bankei

Postby Caodemarte on Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:46 am

Congratulations Ed!
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Re: "Zazen perpetually", of Bankei

Postby ed blanco on Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:22 pm

Thanks Joe, Feliz Navidad y Prospero Año Nuevo, and Caodemarte, Chris and all here in this Forum. :heya:
The one overriding feeling is one of compassion (the Buddhist, non-condescending type.) for all who suffer this thing.
I just can't shake the fear I felt waiting, wondering; knowing someone, many some one's are going through it.

In gassho,

Ed

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Re: "Zazen perpetually", of Bankei

Postby Avisitor on Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:21 am

Not to diminish your sentiments
But, the world is full of someone going through something in their lives
Some of it is very good, some just tolerable and some very deadly
Anguish, misery, paranoia, love, peace, etc.
It is the gamut of human life ... all grist for the mill

Remembering the time my sister just left the doctors office
The look on her face ... she was just told she had Cancer
And that it was all over her body. Not in one place.
She went through Chemo, Radiation, everything ... she died about five months after that
I think the treatment seemed to be worse than the disease
Hair loss, vomiting her guts out and then still vomiting what was not there, nausea, ... all in the effort to beat Cancer and live
Yeah, I remember getting the phone call and rushing to the hospital ... crying, and could not stop crying ... she passed away
My mother crying too .. twisting her hands together like wringing them out like a wash cloth .. no strength to stand anymore
She fell to the floor and my father just holding on to her. Looking to my brothers and they just staring back at me.

It was an emotional time
And even now when I think back upon that day in the hospital, it brings me to ...
It is just all a part of life
Just enjoy what you have now, really enjoy it
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Re: "Zazen perpetually", of Bankei

Postby fukasetsu on Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:57 pm

ed blanco wrote:Hail! True Dharma!!!

Im cancer free!!!



So happy to hear this good news Brother!
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Re: "Zazen perpetually", of Bankei

Postby bokki on Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:48 pm

2 avisitor
iv had similar ex. wont life give such? i give u my most uphold, we all need it. th u and im so sry
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