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Botanical trivia

Postby TonyD on Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:39 pm

Hi,

I was looking at the main SotoZen-net site and I am wondering what the two flower-like symbols mean in the upper left-hand corner. Are they the internationally recognized symbols for Soto Zen?

http://global.sotozen-net.or.jp/eng/index.html

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Re: Botanical trivia

Postby fukasetsu on Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:54 pm

I don't know, but at first glance the first might represent the 3 jewels and the second the ten direction or possibly the lotus sutra. Just a guess on my part, but I like guessing trivia so :)
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Re: Botanical trivia

Postby HePo on Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:27 pm

The Soto Zen symbol is a combination of the Sojiji and the Eiheiji crests (the 2 Head Monasteries of Soto Zen in Japan).
SotoZenCrest.jpg


This is the Sojiji crest (pauloenia)
sojijicrest.jpg


and this the Eiheiji crest (gentian flower)
eiheiji-crest.jpg
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Re: Botanical trivia

Postby TonyD on Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:49 pm

Great, thank you!

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Re: Botanical trivia

Postby desert_woodworker on Thu Feb 04, 2016 1:24 am

I'll take a chance on this.

From Wikipedia:

"Paulownia tomentosa (common names princesstree,[1] foxglove-tree,[2] empress tree or kiri) is a deciduous tree in the family Paulowniaceae, native to central and western China. Paulownia tomentosa is an extremely fast-growing tree, and is a persistent exotic invasive in North America."

See the logo-symbol of the Zen-Peacemakers Order, on their page:

http://zenpeacemakers.org/

Is it the Paulownia? I think so.

I sat with Bernie Sensei (long since now Roshi, of course) and his sangha frequently during 1980-1982, while I was newly a student and Disciple of Ch'an Master Sheng Yen. Mostly to welcome Bernie, and them, (back) to my adopted hometown, and because my friend John Daido Loori was with them, then. And initially because of Lex Hixon's fine inviting influence, on WBAI-FM 90.5 Listener-Supported Radio, via Lex's weekly Sunday program, "In The Spirit". Lex got the whole thing goin', in the City. R.I.P., our dear Lex.
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Re: Botanical trivia

Postby HePo on Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:22 am

Joe wrote:

See the logo-symbol of the Zen-Peacemakers Order, on their page:

http://zenpeacemakers.org/

Is it the Paulownia? I think so.


It is the logo-symbol of the White Plum Asangha, the organization established by Taizan Maezumi,
The Zen-Peacemakers Order is one of the members.

http://www.whiteplum.org

The logo was already in use back in 1973. (perhaps / probably even earlier)
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Re: Botanical trivia

Postby desert_woodworker on Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:41 am

HP,

HePo wrote:The logo was already in use back in 1973. (perhaps / probably even earlier)

Yup, you got it. I sat with Maezumi, too. Only once, at Bernie's place, when he visited after Bernie's first year up in Riverdale (~1981). Maezumi Roshi left Bernie alone in the first year, so Bernie (Sensei) could find his feet as a teacher once back in New York from LA, as Maezumi's heir.

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