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Shunryu Suzuki

Postby Monk Rob on Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:37 am

“Zen is not some kind of excitement, but concentration on our usually everyday activities.”-Shunryu Suzuki

“As soon as you see something, you already start to intellectualize it. As soon as you intellectualize something, it is no longer what you saw.”-Shunryu Suzuki

“The most important thing is to find out what is the most important thing.”-Shunryu Suzuki

“If your mind is empty, it is always ready for anything; it is open to everything.”-Shunryu Suzuki
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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby Linda Anderson on Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:40 am

MR,
You might like to know there is an archive of Suzuki's work that has been compiled by David Chadwick and SF Zen center. David has devoted himself to preserving Suzuki's work. Google might know more.
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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby Monk Rob on Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:04 am

LA,

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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby Avisitor on Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:52 pm

What is it do you really want to say??
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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby Seeker242 on Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:07 pm

Monk Rob wrote:
“The most important thing is to find out what is the most important thing.”-Shunryu Suzuki



Sounds like something Zen Master Seung Sahn used to say. He would say "The meaning of life is to find out the meaning of life". LOL

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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby desert_woodworker on Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:30 pm

A Ukrainian computer programmer / mathematician friend once told me a "programmer's" joke. It runs:

"To know recursion, you must first know recursion."

She said this was famous in her country.

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Monk Rob wrote:“The most important thing is to find out what is the most important thing.”-Shunryu Suzuki

Sounds like something Zen Master Seung Sahn used to say. He would say "The meaning of life is to find out the meaning of life".
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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby fukasetsu on Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:31 pm

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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby Avisitor on Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:44 am

My friend use to say "life sucks and then you die"
He was one of the great philosophers ... haha :tee:


But, does it really matter so much what others say unless it helps us in fulfilling the opportunity that this life presents to us??


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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby partofit22 on Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:04 am

Avisitor wrote:
But, does it really matter so much what others say unless it helps us in fulfilling the opportunity that this life presents to us??




How often do you think it happens that when someone speaks it matters?
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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby Linda Anderson on Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:29 am

Avisitor wrote:My friend use to say "life sucks and then you die"
He was one of the great philosophers ... haha :tee:


But, does it really matter so much what others say unless it helps us in fulfilling the opportunity that this life presents to us??


Need that afternoon cup ... seriously ... :coffee:


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What do you mean to say here? It's upside down...

I don't see your friend as a great philosopher at all and its not really funny. That statement is cynical and seems to reveal suffering without end as well as not considering that we have only one life to live and it's for us.

As far as fulfilling opportunity, that's upside down too... it is not the source of liberation. It may or may not matter what others say, it's only for us... do you have an issue with the quotes above?
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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby fukasetsu on Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:26 am

Avisitor wrote:My friend use to say "life sucks and then you die"


Life is deathless, only compositions arise and dissolve (as entire universus do)

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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby desert_woodworker on Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:07 pm

Some speak of "death and taxes" being inevitable.

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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby Avisitor on Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:43 pm

Linda Anderson wrote:AV,
What do you mean to say here? It's upside down...

I don't see your friend as a great philosopher at all and its not really funny. That statement is cynical and seems to reveal suffering without end as well as not considering that we have only one life to live and it's for us.

As far as fulfilling opportunity, that's upside down too... it is not the source of liberation. It may or may not matter what others say, it's only for us... do you have an issue with the quotes above?

What doesn't come across in a page of words is the sense of humor a person has about life.
And that is why I commented that he was a great philosopher.
Sorry for any misunderstanding

The thing about life is that everything can be falling apart and a person can still laugh
Much like the guy stuck on the side of a cliff with a tiger above him and a tiger below him
He sees a berry and eats it ....

There is nothing wrong with the quotes above as they are.
The problem seen here is ... never mind

partofit22 wrote:
Avisitor wrote:But, does it really matter so much what others say unless it helps us in fulfilling the opportunity that this life presents to us??


How often do you think it happens that when someone speaks it matters?

A lot when it is a child listening to its parents as to how to live their lives .. safely and happily
Less when the child has grown up and experienced some of life's problems and their solutions

On the eightfold path ...
It is possible when one has lived this way for a while .. that bad things happen or one meets an annoying other person
It can be turned from being a problem .. to a lesson one can learn to handle in a better way
Then suffering is no longer suffering ... just one of life's lessons to be handled
One is not that suffering but something more
This ... what we are .. is more than ....
Suffering .. this too shall pass

Don't know ... need my coffee ... :coffee:
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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby fukasetsu on Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:10 pm

Avisitor wrote:What doesn't come across in a page of words is the sense of humor a person has about life.


I get that, sentences like that go over the table all the time with friends, it's a way of saying "don't worry" "don't fret"

At least a little bird told me, or three... :)
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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby fukasetsu on Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:10 pm

desert_woodworker wrote:Some speak of "death and taxes" being inevitable.

--Joe

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I must be dead already then :)
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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby Avisitor on Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:23 pm

fukasetsu wrote:At least a little bird told me, or three... :)

Don't know about friends in the desert
Have heard of the madman of the desert tho??

BTW, what is Dutch??
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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby fukasetsu on Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:49 pm

Avisitor wrote:Don't know about friends in the desert
Have heard of the madman of the desert tho??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQQ80GREye8 :daisy:

BTW, what is Dutch??


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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby Avisitor on Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:50 pm

fukasetsu wrote:Some smell beneath the sheets right, and no its not almonds.


Stop that right away.
You been drinking again???
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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby fukasetsu on Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:32 pm

Avisitor wrote:
fukasetsu wrote:Some smell beneath the sheets right, and no its not almonds.


Stop that right away.
You been drinking again???


No, haven't seen a glass of scotch in months.

I'm currently bidding on some online auctions, so need a clear head. :)
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Re: Shunryu Suzuki

Postby desert_woodworker on Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:38 am

hiya, Rob,

Those selected sayings -- or others you treasure -- are also fine candidates for the thread at ZFI called "Your Favorite Dharma Gems", begun by Christopher a while back.

It's quite a "chock-a-block" archive by now, and a great area to peruse. That thread is 'round-about here:

viewtopic.php?f=129&t=2645&hilit=dharma+gems

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